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Forums - Sales Discussion - The Official March 2010 NPD Thread (Data for 5 weeks ending Apr 3 2010)

Soriku said:
thelifatree said:
Carl2291 said:
thelifatree said:
Sony Published FF7. I doubt Square-Enix Wants Sony Publishing. Because they get less money.

I'm not entering your argument though.

FF7 ended up becoming the best selling Final Fantasy ever.

Infact, i'm pretty sure it's the best selling RPG on home consoles full stop.

But seeing how money hungry SE seem to be this gen... I can see your point.

Like I mean I'm sure, if Sony Publishing it, meant selling as much as as FF7 did. Square-Enix would let sony publish it as they'd get more money.

Although, there are many reason 7 could have sold well

-First in 3d

-Tetsuya Nomura :P (aren't his Edit: Character Designed FF the best selling FF's)

-Yuffie. :P had to put that there <----

-Something more complicated that I can't think of because I am not all knowing


$100 mil dollar ad campaign.

uh, what?



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themanwithnoname said:
makingmusic476 said:
themanwithnoname said:
makingmusic476 said:
themanwithnoname said:
makingmusic476 said:

Another funny note:

FFXIII PS3 - 828.8k
BC2 360 - 825.5k

FFXIII 360 - 493.9
BC2 PS3 - 451.2

Definitely drives home the point of what type of gamer owns each console in North America.


Considering the BC2 ratio is larger than the FFXIII one, would those who say that Versus XIII should be exclusive say the same in the opposite direction should there be a Bad Company 3?

Not to defend those making such claims, but keep in mind this is for America only.  Both FFXIII and BC2 are selling better on ps3 in Europe and Japan.

Worldwide the gap for FFXIII is 3.29:1 in favor of ps3.  Right around 4:1 if NPD's figures are more accurate than ours.  BC2 is only 1.55:1 in favor of 360.

That ratio is useless though, because it was only on PS3 in Japan, and there's no way it would have any bearing on whether Versus XIII went to the X360.

Whereas we should all be focusing on the figures of a single territory?

If you're asking me if I believe it would be a more valid and userful comparison than bringing in a territory where only one version was released? Um, yeah.

North America isn't the only territory where it released on the X360.

In all likelihood the lack of a Japanese release has not impacted the 360 version's total sales in a meaningful way, hence why it remained exclusive (most likely to allow for an earlier release over the Japanese winter holiday). 

Ultimately, both Square and EA make their decisions based on worldwide sales, which is presumably why XIII went multiplat, given the 360's global install base. 

Worldwide sales are always the best barometer in situations such as this.  Focusing solely on North America would be like looking only at Japan and saying Western publishers should support ps3 because their games sell 2:1 in favor of ps3, despite that region being a small part of a much larger picture.



Zucas said:
makingmusic476 said:

Another funny note:

FFXIII PS3 - 828.8k
BC2 360 - 825.5k

FFXIII 360 - 493.9
BC2 PS3 - 451.2

Definitely drives home the point of what type of gamer owns each console in North America.

Well although I know what you are saying, I could see that being interpreted to mean many things.  Which one are you implying that it means because of all the different things I see it suggesting, it might as well be useless for insinuation and assumption about a user base.

Uh, it's pretty straightforward.  Shooter fans own 360s, JRPG fans own ps3s.  (In North America.)

Or, to generalize even further, gamers that prefer western games (shooters, WRPGs, etc.) favor 360, gamers that like Japanese-y things (JRPGs, fighting games, etc.) favor ps3. 

It really only reinforces what most people have already realized.



When will you people understand? VGC tracks sales in AMERICAS not just the united states. So VGC figures should be more than NPD. Plus, VGC did NOT overtrack FFXIII XBox 360, it's just that NPD doesn't include bundles.

Yes, VGC undertracked MLB 10 The Show and God of War III.



Cross-X said:
leo-j said:
Actually wada can do watever the hell he wants

Duh but if he knows how valuable Nomura is to Square, then he knows not to mess with Nomura.

 like Activision doesn't mess with Infinity Ward?



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

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Soriku said:
thelifatree said:
Soriku said:
thelifatree said:
Carl2291 said:
thelifatree said:
Sony Published FF7. I doubt Square-Enix Wants Sony Publishing. Because they get less money.

I'm not entering your argument though.

FF7 ended up becoming the best selling Final Fantasy ever.

Infact, i'm pretty sure it's the best selling RPG on home consoles full stop.

But seeing how money hungry SE seem to be this gen... I can see your point.

Like I mean I'm sure, if Sony Publishing it, meant selling as much as as FF7 did. Square-Enix would let sony publish it as they'd get more money.

Although, there are many reason 7 could have sold well

-First in 3d

-Tetsuya Nomura :P (aren't his Edit: Character Designed FF the best selling FF's)

-Yuffie. :P had to put that there <----

-Something more complicated that I can't think of because I am not all knowing


$100 mil dollar ad campaign.

uh, what?


FF VII got a $100 mil dollar ad campaign.

Well it was the Spearpoint of a 100 million dollar add campaign, wasn't EXACTLY the same.  Still, has to be one of the biggest add campaigns for a game out there when you count the spending just on it.

And by providing it, They got to publish FF7, FF Tactics, Bushido Blade... and a 4th game I can't remember.  Really all and all probably not a bad deal.



makingmusic476 said:

Another funny note:

FFXIII PS3 - 828.8k
BC2 360 - 825.5k

FFXIII 360 - 493.9
BC2 PS3 - 451.2

Definitely drives home the point of what type of gamer owns each console in North America.

the ratio of consoles sold in that region is what makes this really interesting, i wonder how these sales look if the console ration was 1:1



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

VGC data is so solid. I am very impressed.



After seeing how much FF:XIII sold on each console, do you think Versus will go multiplatform?



Zipper said:
After seeing how much FF:XIII sold on each console, do you think Versus will go multiplatform?

yes, i think it's more likely that it will go multiplat than stay exclusive.