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Nightwish224 said:
d21lewis said:
360 has higher attach rate

This. Better exclusives too, IMO.

Did you look at the software chart lately?



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and everyone seems to forget metal gear solid 4, sony also have alot of 3 million+ first party sellers.



Why isn't MGS4 and Fable 2 on the list :|



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Zedex said:

Looking at the top sellers from ps3 and comparing it with xbox 360 it is clear that ps3 exclusives DO NOT sell that well (compared to xbox exclusives) Here are a few examples:

Uncharted-3.10                                                                                       Gears of war- 6.04mil

Uncharted2-3.13                                                                                     Gears of war 2- 5.66 mil

Killzone2- 2.25                                                                                         Halo 3- 10.93 mil

Resistance-3.68

Resistance 2- 1.85

Halo 3 sold more than Killzone 2, Resistance and Resistance2 put together!!! Why is this? 

MGS4:4.68

Resistance:3.68

GT5P:3.67

MS:3.52

LBP:3.21

Uncharted 2:3.13

Uncharted:3.10

Killzone 2:2.25

Resistance 2:1.85

GOW 3:1.81

Infamous:1.46

Heavenly Sword:1.42

Heavy Rain:1.12

SOCOM:1.00

MSPR:0.90

GOW1+2:0.89

Valkryia Chronicles:0.88

Mag:0.75

DS:0.74

Yakuza 3:0.71

WKC:0.56

Yakuza 4:0.49

40.93,if you put PS3 great exclusives together,it's not "SO BADLY" anymore,just too much great exclusives to buy,IMO,they separates sales.AS for XBOX360 exclusives,there ain't much great exclusives to choose on.

XBOX360 now means old tech(can never bring out games like MAG),substandard product(23.7% failure rate from SQUARE TRADE),old exclusives(you just showed it),no bluray(this is not 20th century anymore),but very very good advertisng skill I have to admit that.

Still PS3 has been rising steadily since its launch day according to VGCHARTZ sales number,that says quality really means a lot.

 



nightsurge said:

Possibly, but it does boggle the mind that when big games like MW2 are pirated over a million times on the 360 version alone, just how much more sales 360 games would have without piracy.  It'd be ridiculous.  Same with Wii, DS, and PSP for that matter.

Well actually, in America (where piracy is lowest), where the genre is the strongest, the attach ratios for MW2 are the following:

XBox360: ~31%

PS3: ~29%

And lately the PS3 sells more MW2 than the Xbox360 if compared to the total consoles sold so far.

So they are on par.



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MGS4 sold 5m. Why it's not on the list?

What I see is that only Gears and Halo sale good on the 360. PS3 has more which is why most don't sale the big numbers. It happened with some games during the PS2 and PS1 days also. PS3 just have too many good games to choose from and some people can't decide what to buy or don't have the money to buy them all.



d21lewis said:
360 has higher attach rate

True, but not that important. Attach rate goes up with time as console owners of old accumulate games, and the 360 had a full year-to-fifteen months headstart over the PS3. Putting in a few numbers we can calculate the average number of games bought per console per week of ownership, calculated as 2*attach ratio/weeks:

AMERICA

360
November 22nd, 2005    225w        10.76  ->     0.095 sales/(console*week)
PS3
November 17th, 2006    175w        8.78    ->     0.100 sales/(console*week)

TOTAL OTHERS:

360
December 2nd, 2005    224w        5.96    ->    0.053 sales/(console*week)
PS3
March 23rd, 2007         156w        6.12    ->    0.078 sales/(console*week)

JAPAN:

360
December 10th, 2005    223w        5.29   ->     0.047 sales/(console*week)
PS3
November 11th, 2006    176w        3.91   ->    0.044 sales/(console*week)

 

If I publish a new game today, this number is more relevant to project future sales for each region and platform than the "naked" attach rate, again because the attach rate is an historic total but not an estimate of the current sale speed. The numbers show that on average I can expect slightly better future sales per install base console on the PS3 in America, and quite better in Others. In the end the conclusion is that if sales are lower then you'd better blame the install base than the like of attach or tie ratios.

NB: this number is -of course- an incredibly rough average over all software sales, especially useless when we talk of big hitting exclusives, but still not more so that the attach rate and actually more statistically meaningful.



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sbvgc2012 said:
Zedex said:

Looking at the top sellers from ps3 and comparing it with xbox 360 it is clear that ps3 exclusives DO NOT sell that well (compared to xbox exclusives) Here are a few examples:

Uncharted-3.10                                                                                       Gears of war- 6.04mil

Uncharted2-3.13                                                                                     Gears of war 2- 5.66 mil

Killzone2- 2.25                                                                                         Halo 3- 10.93 mil

Resistance-3.68

Resistance 2- 1.85

Halo 3 sold more than Killzone 2, Resistance and Resistance2 put together!!! Why is this?

MGS4:4.68

Resistance:3.68

GT5P:3.67

MS:3.52

LBP:3.21

Uncharted 2:3.13

Uncharted:3.10

Killzone 2:2.25

Resistance 2:1.85

GOW 3:1.81

Infamous:1.46

Heavenly Sword:1.42

Heavy Rain:1.12

SOCOM:1.00

MSPR:0.90

GOW1+2:0.89

Valkryia Chronicles:0.88

Mag:0.75

DS:0.74

Yakuza 3:0.71

WKC:0.56

Yakuza 4:0.49

40.93,if you put PS3 great exclusives together,it's not "SO BADLY" anymore,just too much great exclusives to buy,IMO,they separates sales.AS for XBOX360 exclusives,there ain't much great exclusives to choose on.

XBOX360 now means old tech(can never bring out games like MAG),substandard product(23.7% failure rate from SQUARE TRADE),old exclusives(you just showed it),no bluray(this is not 20th century anymore),but very very good advertisng skill I have to admit that.

Still PS3 has been rising steadily since its launch day according to VGCHARTZ sales number,that says quality really means a lot.

 

Halo and GOW franchises add up to 40M by themselves, if not more. I can't believe you have counted ALL of the exclusives, I can go ahead and throw in some of the 360 exclusives that no one but me has ever heard of, Shadowrun for example, then numerous JRPG that have been released over the last few years to make it seem like the exclusive list on 360 is long, but alas, that would be misrepresentation. In my personal opinion only those that attain more than 1M sales can be considered a success.



 

The history is written by the Victors.

gears and halo are very popular in usa.
xbox360 is the most popular console in usa.

And microsoft has a much better marketing scheme!

and of course. the multiplayer makes sure everybody keeps there copy. no second hand sales.



Top 15 best selling ps3/360 exclusives this gen:

1. Halo 3
2. Gears of War
3. Gears of War 2
4. Halo 3: ODST

5. Metal Gear Solid 4
6. Forza 2
7. Gran Turismo 5: Prologue
8. Resistance: Fall of Man

9. Fable 2
10. MotorStorm
11. LittleBigPlanet
12. Uncharted 2: Among Theives
13. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune

14. Forza 3
15. Killzone 2

Things don't look so bad when you look at more than the top two selling franchises...