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palancas7 on 10 April 2010
priteshmodi said:
@ leo-j

I've already responded to you in 2 different threads with no response back. What's visually appealing is different from what's technically impressive. Crysis reigns as the unprecedented technical showcase due to its engine's capabilities and what can be observed on higher end PC's. I'm not saying that the Killzone 2 engine, God of War 3 engine or Uncharted 2 engine don't have these capabilities. Simply that these engines can't showcase the extents of their abilities on consoles.

Crysis is technically impressive because everything it does is calculated in real time. Everything is calculated on the spot rather than utilizing pre-baked animations or visual effects.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neqAaSb9gNQ&feature=related

There's an example of what I mean. Most console games with a big nuke scene are either rendered beforehand with post-processing or and heavily heavily scripted to go in only one particular manner. That video shows CryEngine 2 doing it on the spot and buildings and trees around it reacting in response to it by breaking apart, being blown away, etc. If the same situation were performed with the explosives set differently, the result would also be different.

I've had many people claim to me that Killzone 2 has real time wind effects as well. However this is harder to test as the environments are very static with not many items that will react to wind. Having the appearance of wind blow across the screen (such as the day time level in Killzone) or having a flag blowing doesn't mean the wind is being calculated in real time. Throw a grenade up at one of those flags and see if the direction of the waving flag is affected. It doesn't - because the wind blowing through the flag is not being done in real time.

Another example of CryEngine 2 tech that's pretty insane is the lighting. I'll discuss why it's impressive beyond any console game more when I get a response.

Killzone 2 is a looker visually and may very well be many people's favourite looking game due to its very cohesive aesthetic. But from a technical standpoint it isn't at CryEngine 2 level.

Just give up. Don't argue with him when the PS3 or a PS3 game is concerned.



 

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leo-j on 10 April 2010
priteshmodi said:

leo-j

@disolitude

How would you know?

You have never played KILLZONE 2..

you people UNDERESTIMATE the PS3 GREATLY. I know FOR A FACT none of you have played UNCHARTED 2, KILLZONE 2, or GOD OF WAR III (which kills your argument on scale) all which are almost a generation ahead of ANYTHING released on the closest HD competitor, and I joke you not.

Were is spartan's sig when you need it..

I've played both Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 and will be getting GoW3 once my finals are done on April 21. Check out my PSN ID (PS_MO_D for offline and IIXI Mo D IXII for online). Thanks for showing everyone how deluded you are. It just makes everything you say less credible and everything everyone else says against you seem more credible in comparison.

I am not going to lose this argument, its clear I am being triple teamed ONCE AGAIN by PC fans.. and I ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT lose..

Also what's your point? Far Cry 2 tends to do those same exact things.. the nuclear explosion was also very unimpressive as not one tree even moved during the explosion.. while the explosion in KZ2 (while scripted BUT IN ENGINE) had a tremendous force of wind across the entire environment..



 

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Doobie_wop on 10 April 2010
priteshmodi said:

leo-j

@disolitude

How would you know?

You have never played KILLZONE 2..

you people UNDERESTIMATE the PS3 GREATLY. I know FOR A FACT none of you have played UNCHARTED 2, KILLZONE 2, or GOD OF WAR III (which kills your argument on scale) all which are almost a generation ahead of ANYTHING released on the closest HD competitor, and I joke you not.

Were is spartan's sig when you need it..

I've played both Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 and will be getting GoW3 once my finals are done on April 21. Check out my PSN ID (PS_MO_D for offline and IIXI Mo D IXII for online). Thanks for showing everyone how deluded you are. It just makes everything you say less credible and everything everyone else says against you seem more credible in comparison.

You didn't refute what he said though, are there any games on the 360 that come even close to those three games? 

(I'm just trying to back him up, everyone else is just on the attack)



Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3879752

Bamboleo on 10 April 2010

We don't have to prove you wrong, you have to prove yourself right.

which you can't... Crysis is superior to everything possible on consoles (let's see if Crysis 2 manages to beat that)



leo-j on 10 April 2010

I have already proven you people wrong with my comparison videos..

Clearly Crysis looks outdated..



 

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leo-j on 10 April 2010
leo-j said:

direct gameplay footage of both:

skip to 1:28

 



 

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tuscaniman on 10 April 2010
leo-j said:
@disolitude

How would you know?

You have never played KILLZONE 2..

you people UNDERESTIMATE the PS3 GREATLY. I know FOR A FACT none of you have played UNCHARTED 2, KILLZONE 2, or GOD OF WAR III (which kills your argument on scale) all which are almost a generation ahead of ANYTHING released on the closest HD competitor, and I joke you not.

Were is spartan's sig when you need it..

Give it a break man. PS3 is not a generation ahead of its nearest HD competitor which obviously you mean the 360. I can't wait for next month when the reviews for Alan Wake come out and the words "easily as good looking as any other console game" are in it. Crysis crushes KZ2 and everyone here knows it. Seems like the only one who won't admit it is you. I personally know people who own both games and they think Crysis is the best looking game ever made.



priteshmodi on 10 April 2010
palancas7 said:

Just give up. Don't argue with him when the PS3 or a PS3 game is concerned.

Oh I'm not trying to change his mind or anything. I lurk on the forums a lot so I know how most people operate despite my low post count. I'm just showing everyone else that he shouldn't be taken seriously and I think I'm succeeding.

Also I don't think I've directly responded to the OP so I'll make this short.

The reason I (and many others) believe Crysis to be superior to Killzone 2 is fully based on a technical analysis. I've given you the example with the explosion and can go more in depth with why the lighting is way more impressive than anyhing else if you'd like me to.

What's more visually appealing depends on a person's tastes and I can fully see why people would prefer Killzone 2's presentation over Crysis's. It all does look very fluid and every object in the game world fits into the atmosphere presented.

And there's the distinction I'm trying to make. Technical graphics vs visually appealing graphics. Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, God of War 3, Gears of War 2, Resident Evil 5, etc. are all very visually attractive games. I'd say a lot of them even have better textures than Crysis and most probably have higher poly counts and better animations. But Crysis is just unmatched in lighting, particles and physics as all those things are so dynamic compared to the games listed. Crysis is superior technically while those other games could very well look nicer to different people.



palancas7 on 10 April 2010
palancas7 said:

^^That's with only a 8800 GTS

 

 

Watch both in HD of course.

We can all do it.



 

Barozi on 10 April 2010
leo-j said:
@disolitude

How would you know?

You have never played KILLZONE 2..

you people UNDERESTIMATE the PS3 GREATLY. I know FOR A FACT none of you have played UNCHARTED 2, KILLZONE 2, or GOD OF WAR III (which kills your argument on scale) all which are almost a generation ahead of ANYTHING released on the closest HD competitor, and I joke you not.

Were is spartan's sig when you need it..

Played Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2. Crysis and Crysis Warhead on MAX with 4x AA and 1360x1024 resolution and Crysis (and especially Warhead of course) look still better than anything out there.