if apple are having a go at Nintendo and Sony how about these guys get there arses in the video game industry and make there own console instead of hiding behind shockwave phone games

The problem with most of the responses to the OP coming from those who love gaming on their DS or PSP is that they're not looking at the situation from the right perspective. And the result is they instantly dismiss the huge chunk of the portable gaming market Apple is set to take.

I don't see many people buying an iPhone because "I want to play games on it." People are buying them because they want a smart phone with all the functionality it provides, greatly expanded by the rapidly expanding App Store.

Much like the PC, a sizable chunk of iPhones are not being used for games, but the potential market is there for any user who is essentially locked into the device through their phone subscription plan.

I don't consider my iPhone my "portable gaming device." It's my phone. I use it for e-mail, note taking and a list of information providing apps among other things. But it has a bunch of games installed on it that tend to get played during down time, unlike portable gaming systems that are left at home because frankly, I don't go somewhere with the intent of playing portable games.

So next to no one buys an iPhone for playing games. No big deal. Apple still currently has 65% of the smart phone market, which is not a shrinking number.

The big developers have already taken notice and there have been an increasing number of "real" games from EA and the like in the form of well established franchises with one of the key differences being that these games from the major publishers rarely cost more than $10.

But the vast majority of the games in the App Store are still independently developed games. There are rare gems here and there, surrounded by a sea of what I wouldn't even call shovelware so much as straight crap, but as a development platform, it's open to the point that pretty much anyone with a good idea for a game can develop and have a market to publish and sell, which is one of the cooler things about the iPhone as a gaming platform IMO.

but apple don't have a console they have a phone

i don't actually have a smart phone,is an ipad a phone

someone needs to list the top selling games on these apple phones,so we can have a look

i understand that people say a game is a game is a game,but i don't think the markets are comparable yet between phones and handheld consoles

nintendo and sony could have a game that includes 200(or more) little puzzle games would that count as 200 seperate games

i guess when everything is downloadable we will be able to compare or if these phones are as powerful gaming wise

apple is a fool, if they think they can actually compete with nintendo specially in the games area on a handheld, sony for that matter as well.

First off, Apple is in Big trouble, Android cometh and Google is just gobbling up marketshare

As for its competition with Nintendo, it comes down to this, Pokemon and Mario and Kids, that's three major reasons why Apple will never be able to challenge Nintendo in the handheld gaming market

Those android phone play games too....

It's funny to see your reaction coming from one of the biggest Wii fan.

Was it Mario, Pokemon or Kids that made the Wii success ? I don't think so......

Lol iPhone games are a joke. Try playing a game like Liberty/Vice City Stories or God of War 3 on an iPhone. Oh wait iPhone only plays solitaire and other crappy games.

Cynicism over the iPhone is more a response to rather unjustified industry hype than anything else, it's completely different from the Wii's situation. In fact, I'd argue it's very much the opposite. The industry was against the Wii, they're pro-iPhone all the way, it's their new PS so to speak. Totally different from Wii.

As far as smartphones taking over everything, you could be right. But then may I remind you the same was said of computers when Nintendo came out with the NES, as they were riding high with their approach computers were also doing fairly well. And computers did take over the world, did that stop videogames from being quite popular? Nah.

I think we're very much back in the NES era, the PC's "take over" discussion is coming back now in mobile form, and it may very well play out similarly, or not. It's impossible to know what the exact results will be.

oh noo apples crazy!!!

What's the bet that apple are classing silly little apps like the "fart button" app, in those >50,000 titles?