@ r505Matt

I think what you're doing is confusing your experience with scientific research with consumer research. In the scientific field, people are given money/grants to actually conduct the research, but their findings are always made public. In consumer research, these researchers only get money from companies who are willing to pay for their results. So, it wouldn't be very lucrative for them if they published exact details about their research publicly, as no company would need to pay for the results.

Plus, these companies only get popular, and therefore hired by more businesses, if their research is proven to be as close as possible. So I wouldn't be too skeptical about them not being upfront with their info with Average Joe's like us. And according to the OP's source, this info actually comes from Playstation: The Official Magazine. So, I'm guessing either the mag is a client or Sony is and just passed the info along. But either way, they probably didn't have permission to go into specifics other than the info about the weekly 1,000 gamers asked.

@ theProf00

Kind of a small correction, but they are actually 20th in the US. 24th WW, though.

typically, when somebody disagrees with research/theories (ie: the earth is flat), they give, what's it called? hmmm... a rebuttal. (ie: the earth is round) and then go on to present mathematical work and recorded observations to show why they "disagree".

you said "So, you defend this "research" w/o knowing how it was done..." and that's perfectly fine. but the only reason you're being attacked here is because you did the very same thing. you attacked the "research" w/o knowing how it was done. so how can you accuse anybody of anything.

EDIT: hmm, 39% does sound fishy, therefore it must've been pulled outa someone's ass. i mean look at it. it's a 3 and 9. THREE..NINE, can't you see the poop?

there's a difference between wanting to buy something and actual buying and that's the case of this news. probably more than 80% of men would want to buy Ferrari and i don't see them on every street corner.

a lot of the people here would have you believe the "earth is wrong" :P

^^I fixed it up loll. i tend to make word typos a lot lol. wrong..round. they're practically the same lol

Agreed - and I would like to see how they picked the 1000 people before paying any attention to the number

Mark Twain or at least he was one of them (Chapters from My Autobiography).

There are many points of rebuttal for this research but I like the above. For example 18 people might have said they wanted GT5 and 7 of them don't yet have a PS3. (7/18 = 39%)

you know, everyone is questioning how it was done. i don't disagree, it could've been done poorly and the sample is not representative of the population. but it could just as likely have been.

take it for what it is, a statistic done by some company. why does it have to be anything more? you make it seem like they said, oh this is a definite number and therefore 40% of gt5 sales will lead to ps3 sales for sure.

if you're gonna just start questioning this, then why dyou eat everything else that's fed to you w/o questions? who ever said fish was good for you? why dyou see a dentist every year, do we need to? or even better, global warming, man, does everyone eat that up. and now i'm not saying its not true, but when you're sitting in on a debate, the two sides of the argument know a hell of a lot more than you do, therefore they can spew out to you half-truths all they want. one study that was heavily used to discuss the degrading arctic conditions was credited to 18 researchers. 13 of which we're well-renowned. 6 of which pulled out because they disagreed with the results that were being presented. al gore refused to remove their names because their names being there made the argument more credible, they sued him.

if you're gonna question the statistic, then you can't trust anything that's told you because everyone is out there for their own neck and they'll do what they need to, to make you believe them. If you wanna get a statistic you can trust, go do the study for yourself. you trust yourself i would suppose.

the thread was supposed to be about discussing the possibility (because after all, statistics is all about chance and randomness) of a large increase of ps3 sales due to what is referred to as a "system seller." not to question the study. if you wanna do that, contact the site and bash em all you like

and btw, this was not directed at you, scottie. if you half read my long post, i hope you notice this last line. i'm just talking in general

So just to be clear. This is a survey of US gamers only? US is a relatively small market for GT games, though no doubt with NASCAR on board PD will be hoping to grab more US attention.

Conservatively let's say GT5 will double GT5P sales over time. In the US GT5P has done .98M to date. I'll assume 80% of that is US sales, so about 0.78M GT5P. Double that is 1.56M GT5 sales in the US. 33% (corrected figures in the article) of 1.56M = 515K PS3 sales over the time it will take to sell that 1.56M games. Lets assume it will take 1 year to sell that much in the US, so that amounts to a weekly average HW boost for PS3 of about 10K or 10% of weekly sales.

It's by no means legitimate to extrapolate US gamer survey data to Europe where GT is huge. It's quite possible that 90 or 95% of GT5 buyers in Europe already have a PS3, so the HW moving potential overall could be a lot less than the 33% might suggest on initial viewing.