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Kasz216 said:
Even if it did take weeks of preperation... nobody was able to take down the Vista PC with just as much time.  It took a step further to hack into vista.

Yeah, just pointing it out since it seems to be a fairly commonly commented on point on pro-mac sites. The more you know *insert rainbow here*



 

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Mac are good to up to a certain level of video editing, animations, etc.  If you go past a certain level you can't even think about using a mac. Things like 3D rendering, animation creation, etc.  Have you ever seen what they were made on?  I wonder how many game developers develop their games on Mac.  Probably slim to none.  

A simple processing tasks such as video editing for a movie or making music as a musician would be ideal on a Mac.  It would be easier and more efficient on a Mac.  I think that this is where a lot of people get the wrong idea that Mac is superior to PC in high end stuff.  It's because they see many movie studios or even their favorite musicians use Mac for the movies and music videos.  

OMG Avatar was made on Mac so Mac must be better than any PC.  Chances are it probably was made on Mac, only just the editing part.  Most of the CGs were probably made on PCs before it was imported onto the Mac to be edited.

I think both are great but it depends on who is using it for what purpose.  There are so many time I see people use their Mac and I ask them why they chose Mac.  90% of the time I get the same answer.  For school(word processor) and browsing websites.  Most people IMO aren't even using the Mac to its fullest and should only be using a light low end PC.  For the general audience, I think IMO, a PC would suffice and be more efficient than a Mac.



ya, because of the OS. Mac is actually a better OS all around. better functionality, smaller memory footprint. Better features. Remember Windows Vista and 7 borrow most of their features from Mac.

Still due to Apple's closed standard, the OS suffers from expensive pricing for compatible hardware and lack of dev support.



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BW_JP said:
What the hell is this thread.

A mac is just a pre-made selection of hardware together with a frame and an operating system.

If you're talking about the build quality, Mac's are tied for first place with Lenovo Think pads.

Operating system is a personal flavor, you cant say either is better than the other.

Price versus performance Macs are dead last.

There you go.

actually Asus > Toshiba>Sony > Apple on recent studies about a built quality.

 



BW_JP said:
What the hell is this thread.

A mac is just a pre-made selection of hardware together with a frame and an operating system.

If you're talking about the build quality, Mac's are tied for first place with Lenovo Think pads.

Operating system is a personal flavor, you cant say either is better than the other.

Price versus performance Macs are dead last.

There you go.

actually Asus > Toshiba>Sony > Apple on recent studies about a built quality.




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PC's are the way to go, easily upgradable, affordable and can run most if not all games.



KLucifer said:
Mac are good to up to a certain level of video editing, animations, etc.  If you go past a certain level you can't even think about using a mac. Things like 3D rendering, animation creation, etc.  Have you ever seen what they were made on?  I wonder how many game developers develop their games on Mac.  Probably slim to none.  

A simple processing tasks such as video editing for a movie or making music as a musician would be ideal on a Mac.  It would be easier and more efficient on a Mac.  I think that this is where a lot of people get the wrong idea that Mac is superior to PC in high end stuff.  It's because they see many movie studios or even their favorite musicians use Mac for the movies and music videos.  

OMG Avatar was made on Mac so Mac must be better than any PC.  Chances are it probably was made on Mac, only just the editing part.  Most of the CGs were probably made on PCs before it was imported onto the Mac to be edited.

I think both are great but it depends on who is using it for what purpose.  There are so many time I see people use their Mac and I ask them why they chose Mac.  90% of the time I get the same answer.  For school(word processor) and browsing websites.  Most people IMO aren't even using the Mac to its fullest and should only be using a light low end PC.  For the general audience, I think IMO, a PC would suffice and be more efficient than a Mac.

 

Our university doesn't even have macs for any of the games design courses. They do for music technology, graphic design and film media and production.

 

With gaming and animation:

Up untill Maya 2011 it wasn't available on mac (most common 3d package for film and animation).

3Ds Max is not available for mac (most common 3D package for games design).

 

Digital sculpting and high res modelling:

Zbrush I believe has always been available on Mac.

Mudbox has only been ported to Mac in the past few years.

 

Neither of those require high specification graphics cards, more relying on CPU/RAM.

 

 

Macs have always seemed to be the preferred tool for artists for some reason, used them when I did graphic design in college. Music and video seems to be mostly edited on mac also. But PC seems to be the preferred platform for 3D modelling and games design, probably because that's the platform most games are designed for in the first place, so you can make your model and port it straight into the engine to test it out.



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You need power ? -> Tower PC with 2 i7's in it running Linux.
Gaming ? -> Windows (all trough it's crap in my eyes)
Editing/normal use at high quality ? -> Mac
Normal use -> Windows

I'm typing this from my 27'' iMac i7 and this computer is in my eyes better than my i7 Windows system. Just because it runs better. I bought my Windows i7 (and build it on my own) and it costed me 1200 euro's without screen , wifi , speakers , software (windows) , mouse etc. I bought it for video-editting , rendering , and photoshop etc. 2 months later my other PC for downstairs died. Well , it needed to be replaced anyways so I bought an iMac. And I need to say , I wished that I have had bought an iMac instead of the Editing PC. It runs everything , directly , always , fast. No need to instal 45.000 different drivers , nothing , just plug it in and you're ready to go. It costed 2000 euro's , but the specs aren't much different from my PC.

1200 euro PC:
i7
MSI Cyclone 4890 (oc)
MSI X58m
6 GB RAM
2 TB

2000 euro Mac:
i7
Ati Radeon 4850
4 GB RAM
27'' ISP panel <- This is in my eyes the very best of the whole system !
everthing build in
Amazing build quality
Better OS than Windows (OSX)
Timeless design
Keyboard
Very good mouse (Newest Magic Mouse)
1 TB
Death silence , no noise , no coolers , no big tower.

So , I don't think that it's not enough bang for your buck. I think it's even better than a Windows custom PC if you look at quality/price. Performance is something else. But for what instead of gaming and (extreme) calculating would you need to buy a Windows PC ? Price is lower , but that is something you will definitely see back in the quality and life time.
In the 4 months's i've had my custom PC , I had very very much fails , BSOD , driver problem's etc.

Mac's are just very very amazing for editing , 3D rendering , photographers , musician , artist , film editing.
For gaming , yes PC is the way to go. If you don't game , Mac is in my eyes the best. Or if you don't have much money , than the PC is the thing to get. BTW , i'm not someone that is Mac biased. The iMac is my first Mac , and it won't be the last. But even when it is a Mac , I will check if it is good. I don't just buy blind any Apple product.

Then there are some nice little things about the Mac ;
No viruses , not as easy as to hack a Windows PC , better OS design , works right out of the box's.

And honestly , the only reason to buy a PC in my opinion is gaming or the money.
I just don't see any other reason to go trough all the misery a Windows PC brought me many many times.

Hope my post make some things clear.



seriously build a custom pc. Its double less price and double more power.






 

My setup

Core 2 Quad Q6700 2.6ghz,
Ati Radeon 4850 pro,
8 gig DDR2 (1044 or w/e is max)
1 Terrabyte
Windows 7

~500 euros

With the spare cash (500 euros extra still leaves it half the price of an I-mac) could easily chuck in a load of better parts, maybe a touch screen monitor, fancy keyboard, mouse and Wacom tablet? It'd still cost a load less than an Imac i7 setup and windows 7 works great straight out of the box, unlike previous versions of windows.



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