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--OkeyDokey-- on 06 April 2010
Qays said:
Oh goodness. Let's narrow this down a bit. Of the games you listed, several are:

Games that aren't out yet, and therefore irrelevant to whether or not the last few years have been a dry spell for the Wii:
metroid: Other M, super mario galaxy2, zelda: wii, pikmin 3


Games that are the three games I've already mentioned:
Super mario galaxy, Zelda: the twilight princess, metroid prime 3


Games that are really just GameCube games (Twilight Princess arguably belongs in this category, but I'll be nice and pretend it doesn't):
metroid prime trilogy


Games that are almost identical to GameCube games:
Smash bros, mario kart wii


What about Wii Super Smash makes it worth buying for someone who already has GameCube Super Smash? I'll give you a hint: nothing. Certainly nothing qualifies it for greatness.

That leaves a hard core of six games that you claim to be "great":
no more heroes 2, Little King's story, Cave story, world of goo, Punch out, monster hunter 3


Monster Hunter Tri is by all accounts a fine game, but seriously - you're comparing it to Demon's Souls or Oblivion? WTF. Same goes for Little King's Story.

The other games you mention are even more baffling: Punch Out is a mindless nostalgiamobile, No More Heroes 2 is worth no more than a weekend rental, World of Goo is nothing compared to Portal.

Cave Story is a legitimately great game. I'll give you that one.

I see no reason to exclude some of the greatest games this gen.


I do: they're not great games. They range from good all the way down to mediocre. If you could only choose one game to take with you on a deserted island you'd be absolutely crazy to pick any of these.

What about New Super Mario Bros. Wii? :3



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Qays on 06 April 2010

Super Mario Galaxy - 97.28%

Sorry, but Galaxy is the best game of the generation. No mass effect, no metal gear solid 4, no god of war iii or any of the games you said. See with your own eyes at gamerankings.


Come back when you can think for yourself.

But most of them you are not console exclusives. You can only enjoy Zelda, Mario and Metroid in Nintendo systems, those 3 are always candidates for GOTY.


Ummm, exactly half of those games are console exclusives. The other six are exclusively on consoles that aren't the Wii.

Demon's Souls is better than Twilight Princess. Uncharted 2 is at least as good as, if not better than, SMG. BioShock is better than Metroid Prime 3. And then there are the other games on the list that the Wii simply can't compete with at all.



ramonecaxa on 06 April 2010
ramonecaxa said:

Qays said:

I hate The Godfather. I'll throw that out there right now. I find a lot of supposedly "great" movies unwatchable.


It would seem that you have poor taste in everything.

Why I would like to play Demons Solus, Mass Effect or Uncharted when I can play Zelda/Mario/Metroid that are the franchises with the highest rankings?


We're not talking about franchises. We're talking about individual games on individual systems.

Specifically, we're talking about the only three great games on the Wii: Super Mario Galaxy, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, and Metroid Prime 3: Corruption.

These are great games. But they are not the three best games of the generation. Super Mario Galaxy is an innovative but lightweight and unchallenging platformer. Zelda has done interesting things since Ocarina of Time, but Twilight Princess is just about as formulaic and forgettable an installment as the series has ever seen. Metroid Prime 3 is similarly lacking in innovation, and isn't anywhere close to the best shooter on the market today - BioShock is vastly, vastly superior in literally every way.

Why dont you tell us three games from Xbox360 and three from Ps3 that can compete with the "greatness" of Zelda/Mario/Metroid?


That's so easy I'm kind of wondering why you asked.

Demon's Souls
Mass Effect 2
Dragon Age
Uncharted 2
Oblivion
Fallout 3
Final Fantasy XIII
Valkyria Chronicles
Metal Gear Solid 4
BioShock
God of War III
Street Fighter IV

But most of them you are not console exclusives. You can only enjoy Zelda, Mario and Metroid in Nintendo systems, those 3 are always candidates for GOTY.

Also if you include non-exclusive games,like you did, we can include RE4, Okami and World of Goo

 



Qays on 06 April 2010

What about New Super Mario Bros. Wii? :3


What about it? The game is borderline mindless.

Also if you include non-exclusive games,like you did, we can include RE4, Okami and World of Goo

RE4 is a GameCube game, Okami is a PS2 game, and I've already discussed World of Goo. Verdict: it's nowhere near as good as Portal.



Pavolink on 06 April 2010
Qays said:
Super Mario Galaxy - 97.28%

Sorry, but Galaxy is the best game of the generation. No mass effect, no metal gear solid 4, no god of war iii or any of the games you said. See with your own eyes at gamerankings.


Come back when you can think for yourself.

But most of them you are not console exclusives. You can only enjoy Zelda, Mario and Metroid in Nintendo systems, those 3 are always candidates for GOTY.


Ummm, exactly half of those games are console exclusives. The other six are exclusively on consoles that aren't the Wii.

Demon's Souls is better than Twilight Princess. Uncharted 2 is at least as good as, if not better than, SMG. BioShock is better than Metroid Prime 3. And then there are the other games on the list that the Wii simply can't compete with at all.


That's everything you can say? mmm Its hard for you to see that one Wii game is better than your ps3 games... Ok, now I think for myself: SUPER MARIO GALAXY IS THE BEST GAME OF THE GENERATION.

ooohh, wait, I must say what you want to hear? that all the games you told me are better than galaxy? only 'cause you think that? but you said I must think for myself?



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DKCTF didn't move consoles

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SaviorX on 06 April 2010
ramonecaxa said:

Qays said:
 - BioShock is vastly, vastly superior in literally every way.

Why dont you tell us three games from Xbox360 and three from Ps3 that can compete with the "greatness" of Zelda/Mario/Metroid?


That's so easy I'm kind of wondering why you asked.

Demon's Souls
Mass Effect 2
Dragon Age
Uncharted 2
Oblivion
Fallout 3
Final Fantasy XIII
Valkyria Chronicles
Metal Gear Solid 4
BioShock
God of War III
Street Fighter IV

But most of them you are not console exclusives. You can only enjoy Zelda, Mario and Metroid in Nintendo systems, those 3 are always candidates for GOTY.


Bioshock...are you fuckin kidding me?



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Qays on 06 April 2010

That's everything you can say? mmm Its hard for you to see that one Wii game is better than your ps3 games... Ok, now I think for myself: SUPER MARIO GALAXY IS THE BEST GAME OF THE GENERATION.Smile

ooohh, wait, I must say what you want to hear? that all the games you told me are better than galaxy? only 'cause you think that? but you said I must think for myself?


They're not ALL better than Galaxy. But yeah, Demon's Souls, Mass Effect 2, Fallout 3, Oblivion, MGS4, and BioShock are all better than Galaxy. Probably a few more, too.

Bioshock...are you fuckin kidding me?

BioShock is a fantastically innovative and intelligent game. Much moreso than farking Metroid Prime 3.



Gnac on 06 April 2010

It's terrible when opposing opinions are so fierce that both sides become increasingly more obnoxious.



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Pavolink on 06 April 2010
Qays said:

That's everything you can say? mmm Its hard for you to see that one Wii game is better than your ps3 games... Ok, now I think for myself: SUPER MARIO GALAXY IS THE BEST GAME OF THE GENERATION.Smile

ooohh, wait, I must say what you want to hear? that all the games you told me are better than galaxy? only 'cause you think that? but you said I must think for myself?


They're not ALL better than Galaxy. But yeah, Demon's Souls, Mass Effect 2, Fallout 3, Oblivion, MGS4, and BioShock are all better than Galaxy. Probably a few more, too.

Bioshock...are you fuckin kidding me?

BioShock is a fantastically innovative and intelligent game. Much moreso than farking Metroid Prime 3.


Why? Because you say then is true? Who are you?

Yes, the world is wrong, you are right... yes... And Super Mario Galaxy is the best game this generation.



Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever

Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


SaviorX on 06 April 2010
Gnac said:
It's terrible when opposing opinions are so fierce that both sides become increasingly more obnoxious.

The arrogance in this thread is at critical mass; nothing bothers me more than arrogance and superfluous pride. When people start thinking they can judge for everyone else, when they in actuality are on no type of 'superior' level, it rubs me the wrong way. And I repeat, Bioshock? WTF.

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