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I am addicted to trophies because I love it when people screem WOW @ my trophies



Currently playing: MAG, Heavy Rain, Infamous

 

Getting Plat trophies for: Heavy Rain, Infamous, RE5,  Burnout and GOW collection once I get it.

 

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dtewi said:
JerzeeBalla said:

 

 

RolStoppable said:

If the only reason you keep playing a game is that you want those 100 %, then that's usually a sign that it isn't really a good game in the first place. And once you are done, it's likely that you never touch it again.
 

I have to respectfully disagree. 

Case in point, I think Bayonetta is a fantastic game. I love to play it, however, I have beaten it and I mostly play games for the story. This means I have no real reason to play it after the story wraps up. I still continue to play because I would like to get 100% on it. Now, that doesnt mean it wasnt a really good game simply because Im only playing to "complete" it. I hope I am explaining this right.

In short, Im just saying that playing a game in pursuit of trophies/achievements only doesnt mean the game isnt good. Not in all cases anyway. Stuff like Avatar and Terminator Salvation, yeah probably. But like I said earlier, I still play RB2 and DJ Hero in pursuit of trophies, and I find them both really entertaining.

You missed the point.

He's not saying that the only reason to get 100% is for the trophies, but that if 100% is gotten just for the trophies, then the game was not fun.

That's what Im saying. You're probably right in that I missed the point, but what I am trying to say is even though some games are fun, I would not play them right now if not for the trophies. To use DJ Hero again, I find it very fun. Its a good game. But I would not be playing it right now if it didnt have trophies because I have beat every setlist. By his reasoning (again, you are probably right in that Im missing the point) this game isnt good because Im only continuing to play for trophies. 



I am a gamer. Not a fanboy, not a troll, a gamer. So when you dont like what I have to say, remember this fact.

I only feel pressure to complete the game once. I feel no pressure once so ever to complete the trophy list. I just don't have that kind of time.



I try to control my trophy urges as i want to get them all, but for the moment i'll limit to getting what's more capable of actually getting without spending countless hours in frustration.



VivaLaWiida said:
radiantshadow92 said:
seriously though, i am addicted. I need help. Really. somone help..

If you read some comments in this thread, it will help reminding you that games are supposed to be fun and they are a great opportunity to escape from reality (you shouldn't be addicted to them and restrict your life only to games, though). I think I'm in a good way to forget trophies and concentrate only on the game. If it's really fun to collect them (in my case it was Uncharted) and if you have enough leisure time to do so, just do it. But if it's more work then fun (like in Final Fantasy XIII), I would give up and move to the next game.

thats the thing, no matter how much work it is...its always worth it *well most of the time*...its like when i get the plat i feel like all that hard work just turned to fun the instant that chime pops out....its worth it....help...



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Lafiel said:

Xero said:

I have Valkyria Chronicles and Disgaea 3 but wont play them till they get trophys though. I was like half or more through both of them and my HDD died, I can't find the incentive to play through either of them without an additional incentive (trophies).

I think you should get all trophies just by playing through on the hardest difficulty. So the trophies would only be like "complete level 1 on easy", "complete level 1 on normal" ... "hard", and so on. 

Well, as far as I know Disgaea 3 has trophes now.

 

and just playing through on "hard"would be a little too easy imho, that's what Terminator Salvation does..

there must be some more challenging trophies than that in games, but not tedious ones like the "treasure hunter" in FF13 or 10k kills in Resistance 2 or reaching highest lvl in Warhawk and so on, these are just way too extreme

Yeah well maybe... I just don't like the stuff like collect 100 pigeons around the city, and whatnot. On Batman AA or Just Cause, or Infamous... these are okay because they give you the general area of each one so it's like a hide and seek mini-game for you to play. I enjoy it. But not in something like Killzone 2 or Call of Duty, or even Uncharted. 

And D3 does not have trophies in EU, but it does in US and JP... lol...



VivaLaWiida said:

Why did Sony establish trophies into every new game? Why is it nowadays a must-have for every available game and why are some gamers not buying games which do not support trophies (Valkyria Chronicles is unfortunately one of them).  It’s a pity to see some games being left on the shelves or read comments like “I’m not buying this since it doesn’t have any trophies”. The trophy system is probably an answer to Microsoft’s achievement system and in times where producing games is expensive as never before and playing times get sometimes ridiculously short, these kind of “little successes” are a great opportunity to make the player complete the game exhaustively. I know that it’s not an obligation to get Platinum in every single game or to replay a game three to four times in a row. Nevertheless, I feel a kind of pressure to have 100% in a game. I want everything to be done, otherwise it doesn’t feel “right”. I want to get that platinum and gold trophy, no matter how much time it costs and I even put up with countless hours of pure frustration or boredom. What even worse is, that if I look at my trophy profile, I see some games with only 1%, 12% etc. and I am not really able to tell you why, but it’s annoying me to know, that I stopped playing some games although I didn’t like them. Why isn’t there a function to ban some trophies out of your profile or delete the trophy installing?  Am I the only one who has this bizarre behavior or do trophies even affect your choice of buying certain games or not?  I for one have to admit, that I wanted to play Star Ocean: The Last Hope but the fact that gaining its trophies is partly that hard, that you have to sacrifice a large amount of free time only to get some bronze trophies, discouraged me pretty much. It’s a love-hate relationship between that virtual, pathetic prove of an insignificant “success” and the addiction to collect them all. Sometimes, I would like to see them being abolished from every game and sometimes, it makes indeed even fun to hunt them. Excuse me for my limited ability to express my thoughts in English, but I guess you know for sure what I am trying to tell you.

Owners of the Xbox360 or other consoles are also free to discuss that phenomenon or express their own point of view since this mechanic isn’t only to be found at the PS3 of course. I'm currently hunting for trophies in Final Fantasy XIII by the way and grinding is not that much fun but simultaneously it is. Help?!

I don't have his problem because I am emotionally stable and video games aren't important to me beyond the recreation of them.



I am getting worn out by them, ninja gaiden sigma 2 gives you trophies for getting a thousand kills with each weapon and female character...I can't take it anymore.



Trophies don't even bother me. I play the game, and get rid of it as soon as I'm done. I don't care to spend time to replay certain parts of the game just to get trophies when I can spend that time doing something else, like catch up on other games I haven't finished. :P



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strunge said:
VivaLaWiida said:

Why did Sony establish trophies into every new game? Why is it nowadays a must-have for every available game and why are some gamers not buying games which do not support trophies (Valkyria Chronicles is unfortunately one of them).  It’s a pity to see some games being left on the shelves or read comments like “I’m not buying this since it doesn’t have any trophies”. The trophy system is probably an answer to Microsoft’s achievement system and in times where producing games is expensive as never before and playing times get sometimes ridiculously short, these kind of “little successes” are a great opportunity to make the player complete the game exhaustively. I know that it’s not an obligation to get Platinum in every single game or to replay a game three to four times in a row. Nevertheless, I feel a kind of pressure to have 100% in a game. I want everything to be done, otherwise it doesn’t feel “right”. I want to get that platinum and gold trophy, no matter how much time it costs and I even put up with countless hours of pure frustration or boredom. What even worse is, that if I look at my trophy profile, I see some games with only 1%, 12% etc. and I am not really able to tell you why, but it’s annoying me to know, that I stopped playing some games although I didn’t like them. Why isn’t there a function to ban some trophies out of your profile or delete the trophy installing?  Am I the only one who has this bizarre behavior or do trophies even affect your choice of buying certain games or not?  I for one have to admit, that I wanted to play Star Ocean: The Last Hope but the fact that gaining its trophies is partly that hard, that you have to sacrifice a large amount of free time only to get some bronze trophies, discouraged me pretty much. It’s a love-hate relationship between that virtual, pathetic prove of an insignificant “success” and the addiction to collect them all. Sometimes, I would like to see them being abolished from every game and sometimes, it makes indeed even fun to hunt them. Excuse me for my limited ability to express my thoughts in English, but I guess you know for sure what I am trying to tell you.

Owners of the Xbox360 or other consoles are also free to discuss that phenomenon or express their own point of view since this mechanic isn’t only to be found at the PS3 of course. I'm currently hunting for trophies in Final Fantasy XIII by the way and grinding is not that much fun but simultaneously it is. Help?!

I don't have his problem because I am emotionally stable and video games aren't important to me beyond the recreation of them.

What has this to do with being emotionally stable or not?



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