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ok guys imma point out several of the things that are illegal about sony's current "optional" 3.21 firmware update.

1) after market modification is illegal for both the consumer and manufacturer without consent from the opposite party. it states in the tos that they reserve the right to alter software at anytime however its illegal since u cant pre agree to modification. Federal law renders their own tos void because u cant actually enter into an agreement which breaks the law within itself.

2)false advertising - every single ps3 system and game advertises psn access. now no ps3 advertises or specifies firmware requirements therefore they can not block u from accessing the psn based solely on what firmware you use. Also some games clearly state on the box specific firmware requirements. if ur system meets the minimum required firmware then they are legally bound to allow u access to all functions of the game including online play. since no game could possibly require firmware 3.21 as it just came out blocking the access of those who choose not to upgrade is a violation of ur consumer rights. they agree to let u play online when u buy the game so how can they pull it back because u don't upgrade to a firmware that isn't specified as a requirement.

3)theft of service- when u purchase a system or game u are not just purchasing a product u are purchasing a service. the psn is a service that they agree to give u access to upon purchase. it  is clearly advertised on all packaging with no listed firmware requirements. no it is not a free service. every single game and system bought is money for sony that is used to maintain the service that is clearly advertised on the packaging. again by restricting ur access based on firmware they are disabling ur access to a service that was already agreed upon at a set "price".

4)consumer deception- the new update is specifically listed as optional!!! how is that possible when not updating will restrict from using features that were previously functional. this is illegal. even if it states that you will be blocked should u not update in a new eula or tos, by refusing the update u r also refusing the tos or eula including the part which bans u form utilizing the psn based on firmware specification.

5) the psp- (big issue here) my psn account is blocked on my ps3 but not on my psp???????????? how is that? same account same psn. i'm sure they use different programming and code but they also use different firmware. the psn is not designated as psp or psn therefore they obviously cant restrict it based on firmware as my psp CANT use ps3 firmware 3.21 duh. you cant say oh for the psp its one thing and for the ps3 its another as they both are granting access to the same network.

Please people read this and take note. Hey xbox players same goes for u guys. this is bigger than sony or games in general. the precedence this could set is that any manufacturer could remove or disable any fucntion they see fit after u pay for it. 



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go home.



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they are just doing it because they are trying to prevent piracy, it literally killed off there handheld system in western markets, wouldn't be wise to leave a window open for the potential for piracy on ps3..



 

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Cease and desist.



well i got to say man everything u wrote on there made complete sense to me good job with describing it sounds good to me



 

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1) You consented.

2) Nope, the PS3 is still other OS capable. You have no right to PSN, Sony can remove PSN services, or restrict PSN services, for whatever reason they like. And in this case if you want to use OtherOS, you get no PSN.

3) Once again, the service is still there, just don't update PSN. You have no legal right to complain about the removal of service of PSN and therefore no counter-argument here.

4) It is optional. PSN use is optional.

5) I don't really proper understand number 5. My PSP works fine. I updated... what's the problem?



Wrong... I dont have to read this for 1 reason: - in the terms of agreement you signed to, it says SONY holds the right to remove anything off PS3 including PSN at any time they choose with out reason



I find it really funny how all these random people think they discovered some amazing legal issue that Sony somehow didn't think of...



hell this isnt just SONY its MICROSOFT and NINTENDO, APPLE and any other company that has a service. Its always part of the signed agreement



Actually read your terms of service for PSN/XBLA. They can do pretty much whatever they want. You have the option to not take the firmware, as long as you never want to log int PSn again, right? So there's always a choice...



Can't we all just get along and play our games in peace?