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If MS want to make Natal a success i think they need to take a big gamble. Release an updated Xbox with increased performance that will run natal perfectly with no latency issues and will also run old xbox games with natal support. Bundle this with a Natal sports/arcade style bunch of games and sell it at a loss of $300-400usd



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If 360 slim is released on the same day as Natal, and i mean same day, and they bundle it for about $349.99 then it will sell a lot, and the 360 will finally end its streak of getting beat by the ps3 in sales. but 10 million? dont think so. i say 5-7 million will be sold, and about 3 million in the first 2 weeks. they also need a big Natal game aswell. and if they even think of releasing it all at the same time of Reach, then its all going to fail miserably.



I love this thread. I've read through much of it, and there's so much speculation that's being pumped as fact. People can criticize the Move all they want, but Sony has shown much how it works and shown games for it. Microsoft hasn't done the same for Natal.



 

 

1337 Gamer said:
Because M$ has the funding to market this thing to no end. You vastly underestimate marketing.

When my 10 year old sister saw that ad with the family sitting around "using" Natal, she acted like it was the best thing ever, and told me I have to get it. So I think if it actually works like MS says it can and they market it well it could be a huge success but it's a pretty big if on the working part, the marketing I'm pretty sure will work well lol



1337 Gamer said:
Because M$ has the funding to market this thing to no end. You vastly underestimate marketing.

Yeah, like the day they said HDDVD would beat Bluray, or Vista and Zune would be successful.

They used marketing then, and it failed completely.



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At the end of the day it all comes down to how well Natal is recieved.

Not heard much of it in the UK on mainstream media, well nothing of it to be honest, all just on gaming websites!

If the morning TV and news have it on and say its good then it'll be a success, if they don't like it then it will flop, same for move. The Wii got a lot of attention and that's what people see. Also didn't help that theres very few fun childrens or family games on the 360/PS3 so parents and families all bought Wiis. I can't see many people buying a 360 just for natal unless it's really well recieved in mainstream media.



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Brennan said:
or make "pew pew pew" with our fingers...

Seriously, I really doubt Natal will be huge, since it's basically an EyeToy.

You're overestimating the power of marketing and money, or Microsoft former success.

If money and marketing were enough to make a bad product succeed every time, then Zune and Vista wouldn't have flopped hard like they did.

Vista flopped because it was a flawed software package on release.  After SP2 it was great but the damage had already been done.  Windows 7 is getting way more sales and marketing than Vista ever did and it shows.

The Zune is a superior product, but it really doesn't see much marketing at all.  Once Zune as a service starts to grow even more thanks to Xbox Live and its other services, then the marketing and the product itself will begin to sell to its potential.

Natal is quite more advanced and capable than an EyeToy, and the EyeToy itself sold 10 million units, so it looks like Natal will be quite the success if it can sell 10 million units or more in the last year or 2 of this generation.



Brennan said:
1337 Gamer said:
Because M$ has the funding to market this thing to no end. You vastly underestimate marketing.

Yeah, like the day they said HDDVD would beat Bluray, or Vista and Zune would be successful.

They used marketing then, and it failed completely.

Vista sold 20m in it's first month.  It's total userbase was an estimated 330-400m a year ago.  Microsoft said it's adoption has been higher than XP even, I'd hardly call that a complete failure.  

Zune's their "foot in the door" against iPod, but it's been far, far less successful than Xbox was.  Really, their history is littered with similarly unsuccessful products (like webTV), Xbox is really the only one that's seemed to buck the trend and make significant market impact.

Their HD-DVD "support" was just a stall tactic though, they want digital distribution to take over (preferably thiers) for HD video content.



Zipper said:

I'm not talking about the actual hardware or games but the success of the product

Everyone including analysts like Michael Pachter seem to think it will be a huge success in the casual market that the Wii created

Don't you think the PS2 already done that? It obvious the PS2 had a HUGE library of hardcore games.. infact, it had the best games library ever but it was also was a huge success in the casual market, it was the consoles that everyone owned and knew

If the EyeToy only managed to sell 10.5 million units worldwide according to Wikipedia, why would Natal will be more successful?


It's a way more advanced than the eyetoy. It just seems fresh and diffent to me. Have you ever seen a movie called the gamer. I think haveing your hands as the controller is the future of gaming. I really like the concept and the idea. I really think it's going to take gaming in a new direction,but again it really all depends on what games that come out for it. That's what's really going to drive this thing.