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JamaicameCRAZY said:
mirgro said:

Again, the only thing mentioned has been warranty and access to PSN. The access to PSN can also be moot if people are careful. I also don't think you realize that just because they can sue you in the ToS, doesn't mean they actually can. ToS doesn't negate legality or alter it.


I have stated in the very first post of mine this is a user license agreement.  And i believe this type of agreement that comes with the product you purchase and cannot see before you buy is referred to a shrink-wrap license and is legally binding but depends on jurisdiction, but most can be enforced.

And if they decide to take you to court or press charges i am sure they are not going to let your ps3 acompany you to the yard. What ese are you expecting them to take from you besides your warranty and psn accses?

Well they seem to be taking away the ability to use Linux, but apparently they can't even find a nice cover for that. I expect that the people who aren't smart enough to circumvent it but not stupid enough to just take it up the ass will file a lawsuit and probably win.



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ocnkng said:
@JamaicameCRAZY. Ya of course, Sony is a billion $ corporation and we are just individuals so if they want to take away our access to PSN for not updating to the latest firmware version they absolutely can. But remember that I have not ever bought anything pirated on Sony's hardware. I have also been an enthusiastic supporter of Sony in forums and websites and I am sure there are hundreds of thousands like me. If Sony starts taking loyal users like us for granted then that might ultimately prove to be a bigger revenue loss for them then whatever they gain by removing Linux access on the PS3. This is a question of impinging upon my individual freedom of using what I paid for.


And i am sure they would not like to loose their users over not updating to the new firmware. They are in 3rd place they cant really afford to loose anyone. And they do need a more peaceful solution i completely agree but for now this is what we have to deal with.

As far as impinging on your freedoms, i dont know. i always saw it more of a privilage and that privilage has been revoked. just like in school when they put blocked every site that was any good.



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mirgro said:
JamaicameCRAZY said:
mirgro said:
 

Again, the only thing mentioned has been warranty and access to PSN. The access to PSN can also be moot if people are careful. I also don't think you realize that just because they can sue you in the ToS, doesn't mean they actually can. ToS doesn't negate legality or alter it.


I have stated in the very first post of mine this is a user license agreement.  And i believe this type of agreement that comes with the product you purchase and cannot see before you buy is referred to a shrink-wrap license and is legally binding but depends on jurisdiction, but most can be enforced.

And if they decide to take you to court or press charges i am sure they are not going to let your ps3 acompany you to the yard. What ese are you expecting them to take from you besides your warranty and psn accses?

Well they seem to be taking away the ability to use Linux, but apparently they can't even find a nice cover for that. I expect that the people who aren't smart enough to circumvent it but not stupid enough to just take it up the ass will file a lawsuit and probably win.

we shall see.



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I agree that there should be a lawsuit. I look at it like this. In the US, I payed $599 to have a gaming console that I can also use as a computer. People today are spending $299 for just a game console. How is it right that Sony can take the computer part away without refunding our $300? I have never been more mad at Sony as a company as I am about this. This system will be destroyed by hacks now. They deserve it. They shouldn't steal $300 from their most loyal customers.



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johnathonmerritt said:
I agree that there should be a lawsuit. I look at it like this. In the US, I payed $599 to have a gaming console that I can also use as a computer. People today are spending $299 for just a game console. How is it right that Sony can take the computer part away without refunding our $300? I have never been more mad at Sony as a company as I am about this. This system will be destroyed by hacks now. They deserve it. They shouldn't steal $300 from their most loyal customers.

Nobody bought a ps3 for linux. you can get a much cheaper pc that runs a much less limited version of linux.

That said Sony never guarenteed future linux support, the end user liscence agreement you didint read says sony can take out whatever they want basically. If you want to sue someone sue the little girlie looking fucktard who started this



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brainiacxiii said:
johnathonmerritt said:
I agree that there should be a lawsuit. I look at it like this. In the US, I payed $599 to have a gaming console that I can also use as a computer. People today are spending $299 for just a game console. How is it right that Sony can take the computer part away without refunding our $300? I have never been more mad at Sony as a company as I am about this. This system will be destroyed by hacks now. They deserve it. They shouldn't steal $300 from their most loyal customers.

Nobody bought a ps3 for linux. you can get a much cheaper pc that runs a much less limited version of linux.

That said Sony never guarenteed future linux support, the end user liscence agreement you didint read says sony can take out whatever they want basically. If you want to sue someone sue the little girlie looking fucktard who started this

You're wrong, there are quite a few companies that bought PS3's to run in clusters.  You're correct that right now it makes no sense to buy a PS3 for a linux solution but 2 years ago it was a more attractive proposition.  I think Sony have just set an alarming precedent and too many people on this site are not thinking about the long term implications, this ranks alongside the horse armour DLC debacle with new ways to screw customers over. 



slowmo said:
brainiacxiii said:
johnathonmerritt said:
I agree that there should be a lawsuit. I look at it like this. In the US, I payed $599 to have a gaming console that I can also use as a computer. People today are spending $299 for just a game console. How is it right that Sony can take the computer part away without refunding our $300? I have never been more mad at Sony as a company as I am about this. This system will be destroyed by hacks now. They deserve it. They shouldn't steal $300 from their most loyal customers.

Nobody bought a ps3 for linux. you can get a much cheaper pc that runs a much less limited version of linux.

That said Sony never guarenteed future linux support, the end user liscence agreement you didint read says sony can take out whatever they want basically. If you want to sue someone sue the little girlie looking fucktard who started this

You're wrong, there are quite a few companies that bought PS3's to run in clusters.  You're correct that right now it makes no sense to buy a PS3 for a linux solution but 2 years ago it was a more attractive proposition.  I think Sony have just set an alarming precedent and too many people on this site are not thinking about the long term implications, this ranks alongside the horse armour DLC debacle with new ways to screw customers over. 

and those cluster's will still work.they can still use it for Linux, nothing is stoping them from not updating the PS3's of the cluster.

even debug kit's have the 3.20 update which still contained Linux support.

if their clustering, thay are most likely using them for non game purposes anyway!

while I think its bad that Sony was forced to do this.

but then again security was deemed more important.

beside's  Java can be more of a focus for homebrew because it still work's off of a blank BD 25 disc..

 

 



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joeorc said:
slowmo said:
brainiacxiii said:
johnathonmerritt said:
I agree that there should be a lawsuit. I look at it like this. In the US, I payed $599 to have a gaming console that I can also use as a computer. People today are spending $299 for just a game console. How is it right that Sony can take the computer part away without refunding our $300? I have never been more mad at Sony as a company as I am about this. This system will be destroyed by hacks now. They deserve it. They shouldn't steal $300 from their most loyal customers.

Nobody bought a ps3 for linux. you can get a much cheaper pc that runs a much less limited version of linux.

That said Sony never guarenteed future linux support, the end user liscence agreement you didint read says sony can take out whatever they want basically. If you want to sue someone sue the little girlie looking fucktard who started this

You're wrong, there are quite a few companies that bought PS3's to run in clusters.  You're correct that right now it makes no sense to buy a PS3 for a linux solution but 2 years ago it was a more attractive proposition.  I think Sony have just set an alarming precedent and too many people on this site are not thinking about the long term implications, this ranks alongside the horse armour DLC debacle with new ways to screw customers over. 

and those cluster's will still work.they can still use it for Linux, nothing is stoping them from not updating the PS3's of the cluster.

even debug kit's have the 3.20 update which still contained Linux support.

if their clustering, thay are most likely using them for non game purposes anyway!

while I think its bad that Sony was forced to do this.

but then again security was deemed more important.

beside's  Java can be more of a focus for homebrew because it still work's off of a blank BD 25 disc..

 

 

Read the post I quoted, he said "nobody bought a PS3 for Linux", I merely corrected his mistake as we both know that is a lie.  I've mentioned my other thoughts on this matter more than enough earlier in the thread.

I had high hopes for the possibilities of the homebrew scene on the PS3 but it now looks even more unlikely to ever take off.  I shall stick to the 360 homebrew scene where they have full access to the hardware and people are starting to roll out applications slowly but surely.  I don't go on PSN much anyway so my PS3 will not get updated and I'm going to pickup a Slim with a new mobile phone contract in the next month.  It will add more balance to the equation having 2 360's and 2 PS3's.