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Akvod said:
For those that say games with many iterations just get unwarranted hate, look at the Total War series. 6 games with usually 2 or more expansion per game, and the praise the series gets still, both from fans and critics.

Devs like Creative Assembly or DICE are consistent and make good games, because they are given freedom and good treatment from their bosses, as opposed to other devs who are pressured and suffocated by an asshole CEO who will rather take the fun out of video games.

That's not what I remember from when Empire: Total War came out. The terribleness made me not even consider N:TW. you seem to have picked a bad example, the internets was in an uproar with ETW.



 

 

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soulsamurai said:
SmoothCriminal said:
dahuman said:
I FPS on PC, MW2 is a pile of garbage for a PC game, therefore, I have 0 desire to play it.

This.

 

What's sad is that it's still 10 times better than the console version.

Agreed as well....

I have MW2 on PC....and when I'm enjoying MAG, a console shooter, more then that....you know somethings wrong.

 

To be fair MAG has drawn me in more then any other shooter out there though including team fortress, counterstrike etc. etc. but MW2 is still crap compared to the first MW and any Battlefield game.

Exactly. I still say that Counter-Strike is the best, but I haven't played MAG yet. Either way, I'm not much of an online FPS player so I probably never will.



Because they runied what should of been a brilliant game, COD 4 was brilliant and they runied just about everything they could for MW2.



pizzahut451 said:
richardhutnik said:
pizzahut451 said:
Akvod said:
Lol, Battlefield getting their asses kicked? Try playing in a game with no glitching, hacking, n00b t00bing, kills streaks, deaths streaks, but a real emphasis on team work, Destruction 2.0, properly manned vehicles, and skill.

Yes, i always hear people saying ''MW2 sucks,its for n00bs, no skill im gettin BBC2'' and yet they return to MW2 and still get their ass kicked.

Also, BBC:2 has probably the worst campaign i've ever played in a FPS game

It makes more sense than the trainwreck of a single player campaign as MW2.  A ton of production value went into MW2, to back up an incoherent single player storyline.   Both are borderline nonsensical though, but MW2 is far worse.

dont even compare MW2 campaign with BBC2's. MW2's single player has THE BEST atmosphere in any FPS ever, lots of shooting and going on the screen, and tons of action. BBC2 is your typicall ''4 american guys (with the black guy who swears a lot being the boss) kill entire enemy army''. Its boring, its generic

Hall way shooting? Check

Scripted AI? Check

White "bad ass" guy with a mohawk, who never seems to die? Check

Big bad soviet union trying to destroy the world? Check

MW2 is generic. BC2 may not have the best SP (Its boring to me) but its far better than the scripted chuck e cheese robots with guns.

 

 



Elitism.

Yes just one word.



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I loved MW1, and W@W was my favorite CoD game, but MW2 is just a really bad and annoying game (though I still play it a lot.)



because if u play games like resistance ull see that theres actually real gun fights happenin and it takes skill to kill peoples not just a 3 burst shot

but I gotta admit that the games is quality just got bored cuz it was no challenge for me and no fun



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Squilliam said:
Elitism.

Yes just one word.

You may be right about that, to a degree.

But I think also MW2 is taking some heat from frustrated Pc gamers who feel that with the emphasis on consoles lately, some genres are actually devolving. And I personally feel that FPS are among those genres. Don't get me wrong...I enjoy FPS on consoles, but they are kind of laid back. One just sort of cruises through them. And that's fine. But sometimes you just want something more.

I think many people feel it's a step back, and with the sales it's getting is a bad omen for things to come.



Because its a terribly broken piece of shit game. It has so many problems it may be beyond repair.

Just to name a few of them:

1. Commando is retarded, people lunge up to I think 3 meters and they're invincible while "mid-lunge"

2. Terrible lag. I'm not a fan of Bad Company 2, but at least they have dedicated servers. Figure it out Infinity Ward, host migration isn't enough; we need dedicated servers.

3. People camping (and boosting) to get high killstreaks and nukes. What's the solution? Go back to 3/5/7 killstreaks (UAV, Airstrike, Chopper). Seriously if you took out high killstreaks, you would eliminate probably half the camping in the game.

4. Noob Tube, especially when paired with danger close and either scavenger or one many army pro. It was better in CoD4 when noob tube took the place of your 1st perk.

5. Stupid fucking weapon attachments like heartbeat sensor which is just a portable UAV, thermal which turns average snipers into great snipers thanks to enemies becoming huge glowing white globs, and akimbo (especially on the shotguns)

6. Shotguns are way overpowered and have way too much of an effective range. Oh and the AA-12 is the most noob gun. If you get in a room with someone with an AA-12 you stand no chance.

7. Horrible ass spawn system. When you rush and play aggressively; the game punishes you by spawning enemies all around you. The only way not to get spawn killed is to sit back in your own spawn and camp.


I could go on all day about the things I hate about MW2. And don't tell me I hate the game because I'm shitty at it. I have just under 10 days logged and my Kill/Death ratio is just under 2.00. So I'm not the best player ever but I get 2 kills per life on average.



Pellefant said:
Squilliam said:
Elitism.

Yes just one word.

You may be right about that, to a degree.

But I think also MW2 is taking some heat from frustrated Pc gamers who feel that with the emphasis on consoles lately, some genres are actually devolving. And I personally feel that FPS are among those genres. Don't get me wrong...I enjoy FPS on consoles, but they are kind of laid back. One just sort of cruises through them. And that's fine. But sometimes you just want something more.

I think many people feel it's a step back, and with the sales it's getting is a bad omen for things to come.

Its more than that. Essentially any great selling game is a more casual game at heart and the more core/hardcore gamers look down upon those types of gamers. Casual players don't know anything about balance nor do they care that they have to buy a map pack with 2/5 maps from a previous game, they just want to play and enjoy the game. All of the negatives listed previously are irrelevant if the average player doesn't notice. You'll see here that the hardcore gamers on this site just want to be the centre of attention and they can't understand why 'bad' games like Mario Kart, Halo, Call of Duty etc sell so well and nor are they happy about it because it makes them realise how small they are in the market and how little market power they actually have.



Tease.