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Forums - Sales Discussion - High selling games that don´t deserve high sales, in your opinion.

fukudalakasone on 28 March 2010

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas is officially the most oversold game of all time. There is no disputing this.

The game isn't even the best in the series yet the games sales were inflated significantly as a result of numerous controversies which made the game extra popular (most notably the hidden sex mini game in Hot Coffee in earlier versions of the game) in the eyes of consumers that wanted simulated crime/sexual experiences without actually committing any acts of this nature in real life.

Proper order will be restored once New Super Mario Bros Wii surpasses it as the greatest selling home console game of all time not bundled "officially" with a home console or peripheral accessory.



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Severance on 28 March 2010
dnnc said:
HKN said:
PearlJam said:
HKN said:
MW2, not even in the top five FPS this gen.

Can you list your top five, just curious?

1. MAG

2. Killzone 2

3. COD 4

4. Resistance

5. Resistance 2

personal opinions are welcomed and respected, however your bias is to noticeable and broken since your top choice is an obvious dud

and don't use the whole 256 players at a time thingie cause no one actually cares about that, but nice try, E+ for effort. 

You know a lot of people love MAG ? its really fun why is it a dud? graphics?

i'd personally switch KZ2 to first and remove CoD4.

it would be like this

1. KZ2 (best online FPS this gen, story mode is okay but wasn't very complex)

2. MAG (what it have above BC2 and Halo is the world and factions are always active , and it always changes the gameplay, plus lots of costumizations and the game is challenging)

3. Halo 3 ( the single player is the best out of these , and the multiplayer is fun, but very noob friendly )

4. BattleField Bad Company 2 ( EA Servers really suck, and the Single player mode is kinda fun, the multiplayer is a blast, but i already played BC1 so it got old fast)

5. Bioshock ( i am not a fan of this game the setting doesn't appeal to me -like Fallout 3 the old musicals and 60's american scifi thing- but its a fun game )



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dnnc on 28 March 2010
Severance said:
dnnc said:
HKN said:
PearlJam said:
HKN said:
MW2, not even in the top five FPS this gen.

Can you list your top five, just curious?

1. MAG

2. Killzone 2

3. COD 4

4. Resistance

5. Resistance 2

personal opinions are welcomed and respected, however your bias is to noticeable and broken since your top choice is an obvious dud

and don't use the whole 256 players at a time thingie cause no one actually cares about that, but nice try, E+ for effort. 

You know a lot of people love MAG ? its really fun why is it a dud? graphics?

i'd personally switch KZ2 to first and remove CoD4.

it would be like this

1. KZ2 (best online FPS this gen, story mode is okay but wasn't very complex)

2. MAG (what it have above BC2 and Halo is the world and factions are always active , and it always changes the gameplay, plus lots of costumizations and the game is challenging)

3. Halo 3 ( the single player is the best out of these , and the multiplayer is fun, but very noob friendly )

4. BattleField Bad Company 2 ( EA Servers really suck, and the Single player mode is kinda fun, the multiplayer is a blast, but i already played BC1 so it got old fast)

5. Bioshock ( i am not a fan of this game the setting doesn't appeal to me -like Fallout 3 the old musicals and 60's american scifi thing- but its a fun game )

I give you 2 more months on MAG, as for Bioshock, pay more attention to the story.

Look up Ayn Rand (Andrew Ryan & Bioshock would not exist if not for Ayn Rand) and then play the game again



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yo_john117 on 28 March 2010
twistedcellz said:
wow theres alot of people talkin crazy here and since I got a 360 I will say halo 3 overrated as fuck and whats crazy is that nobody cant argue with me that theres so many better fps

What do you mean by this?



indodude on 29 March 2010
dany612 said:
Games4Fun said:
Ghazi4 said:
CGI-Quality said:
oldschoolfool said:
dany612 said:
Halo Reach, Halo 3, Grand Theft Auto (all)....and especially modern warfare 2. Zelda ocarina of time, God of War 3, and GT series.


So basically you hate everything that's popular. Grand theft auto is one of the best series of games of all time.

Not to mention that Halo: Reach isn't even out yet and God of War III just came out.

sorry but CGI just pwnt u there oldschoolfool :P

You just owned yourself look again heh

Halo Reach is overrated and with expecting big numbers, it doesnt deserve the hype nor the sales. Halo 3, psh same stuff. Grand Theft Auto series must be the most overrated while all of its games and spinoffs gathering nothing less than 9.5 on many sites (hello its the same stuff just different stories). Modern Warfare, well not as good as the first so you know why. Zelda ocarina of time is not the best game ever, so stop it Zelda fans, please Mario beats zelda any dya. God of War 3 didnt deserve to beat Pokemon worldwide opening even tho Pokemon only released in NA. Gran Turismo is no different than any other racing game, nothing special. Need for speed beats it anyday. peace out*

So any popular franchise that isn't Nintendo(besides Zelda) is overrated? Cool story bro, and I doubt you've played God of War III, let alone Halo Reach rofl.



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dunno001 on 29 March 2010

Hmm... oh, there's several of these in my book, like...

-Any game that relies on movies to sell it. This would include every FF from 7 onward, MGS, etc.
-GTA series. That series is so buggy that I find it insulting that gamers would continue to buy this up.
-CoD:MW2. Okay, I'm not a fan of FPS games. But I have no problem with them selling a few million. But when it's yet another in a series of mostly the same game selling close to 20 million, that's just too many. Sure, I think Halo 3's high at over 10m, but it took longer to get there, and came out well before MW2. I don't think it's too high though, given what I've seen the series do before, coupled with no prior Halo game on the current gen. But MW2 really screams more of the same, following a copycat formula, and even had earlier games in the CoD series (including MW1) on the same platform. It's been milked to death.
-Music games w/ instruments. Hasn't the train left the station on these? Instead of trying to get good songs, they tried figuring out what other plastic container they could sell you for an insane price. I'm sorry, but a game exceeding the price of the system is a problem...



-dunno001

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Linkasf on 29 March 2010
Chairman-Mao said:
Its so easy to name some:

1. Modern Warfare 2 - This broken piece of shit game only sold well because its the sequel to the best shooter game this gen. It has so many problems and Activision is too busy counting their money and releasing overpriced DLC to fix it. Commando anyone?

2. Motorstorm - 3.52 million for an average racing game. It only sold this well b/c it was a launch title.

3. Resident Evil 5 - This game sucked hard. Like I'm no fan of the RE series but even I can tell it wasn't as good as RE4

4. Any yearly sports games. Mainly Madden, FIFA and PES. Its the same game with just a few minor tweaks and a roster update.

5. Any Guitar Hero game doesn't deserve to sell any copies.

6. Any of the crappy LEGO games. I can't believe LEGO Star Wars sold 1.19 million on PS3, not sure the 360 sales.

7. Wii party games/3rd party shovelware. Self explanatory

8. Halo ODST - You can call me a troll or whatever but this game should have been a $30 or $40 add on to Halo 3, not a full $60 retail game. It had like what a 3 or 4 hour campaign and firefight mode? What a rip-off. (not as big a rip as the $15 stimulus package). Halo 3 deserves its sales, but not ODST.

9. Left4Dead 2. It came out barely a year after Left4Dead 1 and to me it didn't look that different than the first. A short new campaign, a couple new modes, new characters/guns/enemies. They could have just as easily released a bunch of DLC instead of a full new game.

10. Wii workout games, including Wii Fit - self explanatory

11. NSMBW - Isn't it just the DS version ported to the Wii? Damn anyone who bought it got taken for $50 (or whatever a wii game costs). I'm not saying its bad, don't get me wrong, but its an old port.

12. GT5 Prologue - I love Gran Turismo and I will buy GT5 on day 1, but come on people its a $40 demo. I know it has more content than any crappy Need For Speed game, but its not a full game. Only reason I have it is I bought it used for $20.

Yeah for number eleven... I've played the DS NSMB and then went to play NSMBWii and they are quite different in some ways... The multiplayer alone makes the game much better than the DS game. It's damn fun. Oh but I like the feel of the DS one a bit. Just because they have similar names does not mean that they are the same game. Same or similar concept maybe.



chocoloco on 29 March 2010

Why would anyone not put COD 4 and COD 6. They are great games, but way overated.

I was in Gamestop months ago and a sad DAD returned Borderlands and the strategy guide. He said "My boys wouldn't play with me," he said they wanted COD 6/MW2 (a non coop game, excluding online special ops coop).

This was sad as Borderlands has many, many hours of coop fun. Instead the kids chose to play alone without dad. CRAP!!!

I wish my dad would play coop games with me. The over hype of Infinity Ward COD games is bullshit.



jesus kung fu magic on 29 March 2010

The J man is a firm believer of the saying "you reap what you sow" .

Every single sale a game gets is a deserved sale , whether the majority bought the game based on : marketing ,the developers making the game with a broader demographic in mind or through game reviews , it was a method that got the consumer to fork up some cash for whatever reason it may be.

You have to understand that this is a business and if a game sells gangbusters then that means said devs/publishers did whatever they had to do to get as much sales while on the other side , if a dev/publisher didnt sell what it expected to then they both didnt do enough to push their own game or didnt have a game that appealed to alot of people.

 

This thread should just be renamed " Games you dont like" because that is the only reason The J man can see someone saying a game doesnt "deserve" the sales it got.

 

And also as a response to toasts thread, nothing "deserves" more sales.

 

 



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yo_john117 on 29 March 2010
jesus kung fu magic said:

The J man is a firm believer of the saying "you reap what you sow" .

Every single sale a game gets is a deserved sale , whether the majority bought the game based on : marketing ,the developers making the game with a broader demographic in mind or through game reviews , it was a method that got the consumer to fork up some cash for whatever reason it may be.

You have to understand that this is a business and if a game sells gangbusters then that means said devs/publishers did whatever they had to do to get as much sales while on the other side , if a dev/publisher didnt sell what it expected to then they both didnt do enough to push their own game or didnt have a game that appealed to alot of people.

 

This thread should just be renamed " Games you dont like" because that is the only reason The J man can see someone saying a game doesnt "deserve" the sales it got.

 

And also as a response to toasts thread, nothing "deserves" more sales.

 

 

Hell yeah dude!  Good post.