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cmeese47 on 29 March 2010

Demon Souls, Valkyria chronicles, Every good M rated game on Wii, folklore, Ratchet and Clank A crack in time. most PSP games damn hackers.



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Alterego-X on 29 March 2010
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Alterego-X said:
^ Kenryoku_Maxis, Think about it with this analogy:

When two runners race with each other, who deserves to win?
Of course, the one who runs faster. The ability to run fast is determined by many attributes, from muscle strength, to body weight, having the right rhythm, and speeding tactic

One of the things that doesn't matter is which one is the nicer person.

The sales race is a race too. And in my opinion, the attributes that should determine the results include marketing, word of mouth, mainstream appeal, etc.

With the idea that the game you consider "higher quality" should have higher sales, you mix subjective preferences with objectively measurably results, like if you would measure a runner''s worth of being first by his personality.

Of course, personality is an important thing, but on an entirely different field.

Using your analogy, you're basically saying the games that sell the best are the best games. 

No, it's exactly the opposite. 

To continue my analogy, I DON'T claim that the person who runs the fastest is the "best person". But he is the best RUNNER. The two has zero relation to each other.  

Likewise, the game that sells most is not the best game. But it is the BEST SELLER. The two have zero relation to each other. 

 

Actually, if you insist that the games you consider the highest quality should be the best sellers, YOU imply that quality and high sales are supposed to be related to each other.

 

For example, my favorite game from 2009, The Path, that is an indie European "artsy-fartsy" game, that probably sold a few thousand units. 

This game is probably the best thing that happened to me in the past years, yet I wouldn't claim that it "deserved more sales". 

Because it's a miserable failure as a business product. It totally lacks mainstream appeal, it wasn't advertised at all, it is not actually entertaining, and it wasn't ever intended to be financially successful, the artists totally lacked serious financial considerations.

 It just wasn't a strong runner in the sales race. 

Therefore saying that it should have sold more is like saying that my mom should win the Olympics because she is such a good mother. 



Aion on 29 March 2010

Gears of War- 10 mil
Halo 3- 15 mil
FF XIII- 9 mil
Fallout 3
Pokemon- Fire red- 500 million



 

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jarrod on 29 March 2010

In the west, the Dragon Quest series, the Monster Hunter series and pretty much everything from Clover/Platinum. Except MadWorld *spits*.



freebs2 on 29 March 2010

-Every metroid game
-Every resident evil game
-Tatsunoko VS capcom
-Metal Gear Solid 4



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Alceste007 on 29 March 2010

I have played some great games this year, but the games below are my favorites and desire additional sales:

Mass Effect 2
Valkyria Chronicles
Bayonetta
Jeannie d'Arc



Kenryoku_Maxis on 29 March 2010
Alterego-X said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Alterego-X said:
^ Kenryoku_Maxis, Think about it with this analogy:

When two runners race with each other, who deserves to win?
Of course, the one who runs faster. The ability to run fast is determined by many attributes, from muscle strength, to body weight, having the right rhythm, and speeding tactic

One of the things that doesn't matter is which one is the nicer person.

The sales race is a race too. And in my opinion, the attributes that should determine the results include marketing, word of mouth, mainstream appeal, etc.

With the idea that the game you consider "higher quality" should have higher sales, you mix subjective preferences with objectively measurably results, like if you would measure a runner''s worth of being first by his personality.

Of course, personality is an important thing, but on an entirely different field.

Using your analogy, you're basically saying the games that sell the best are the best games. 

No, it's exactly the opposite. 

To continue my analogy, I DON'T claim that the person who runs the fastest is the "best person". But he is the best RUNNER. The two has zero relation to each other.  

Likewise, the game that sells most is not the best game. But it is the BEST SELLER. The two have zero relation to each other. 

 

Actually, if you insist that the games you consider the highest quality should be the best sellers, YOU imply that quality and high sales are supposed to be related to each other.

 

For example, my favorite game from 2009, The Path, that is an indie European "artsy-fartsy" game, that probably sold a few thousand units. 

This game is probably the best thing that happened to me in the past years, yet I wouldn't claim that it "deserved more sales". 

Because it's a miserable failure as a business product. It totally lacks mainstream appeal, it wasn't advertised at all, it is not actually entertaining, and it wasn't ever intended to be financially successful, the artists totally lacked serious financial considerations.

 It just wasn't a strong runner in the sales race. 

Therefore saying that it should have sold more is like saying that my mom should win the Olympics because she is such a good mother. 

In that way, that's where I was trying to portray two different things.  There are some games that won't appeal to the mass market no matter what.  Like some examples I gave such as Okami or The Conduit.  But there are others that will, yet aren't given the marketing budget and effort by their publishers to become popular, such as say Dragon Quest.

To use your own analogy and tie it to a real world scenario, someone can be a fast runner.  But if they are never put in a position where they can compete with the major runners and make standing, they will never be seen and therefore never make it to the Olympics.



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