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Jedidiah-Rose said:

I hate motion controls,always have and I probably always will,I've never liked the Wii and have been quite vocal about it on this site and others including my personal Youtube account in which the very first videos were all in support of the Playstation 3 and I was particularly hostile toward other consoles and fans of other consoles.Luckily I've changed it a bit then,and where as I still bite the heads off casual gamers,I'm more open to the idea of people who consider themselves HardCore games preferring the Xbox 360 or Wii over my favoured console.

However my intolerance for the Wii is a rare thing it seems,with well over 60 million consoles sold,Nintendo are sitting pretty,and alongside the Nintendo DS which is on ther verge of outselling the PS2,deposing Sony's home console from the top and putting a Nintendo handheld back up there,Nintendo have done well for themselves this generation.It's all largely thanks to what I consider gimmicks,as opposed to real new generation gaming.Where as Sony and Microsoft went about transitioning from the sicth generation to the current seventh generation of videogame consoles in the age old tradition of improving the power of the consoles and the technology (which I believe is the CORRECT approach to making a new generation console),Nintendo opted to make a machine that is more or less the exact same as their previous attempt (in fact slightly less powerful than the Gamecube I once read,either that or the Gamecube could achive more graphically) with a new control system: Motion Control.

The originally promised 1:1 motion control sensitivity of the WiiMote had the gaming community in a crazed frenzy of hype and anticipation,and where as Sony and Microsoft mocked Nintendo's weak machine,and at the time laughable control method (I still laugh at it personally),Nintendo came out fighting and three years later has twice as many units sold as the 360 or twice as many units as the PS3.The Wii is cheap and offers a "fun" control method,and that is often the answer I get off people when I ask why the console is so successful.

Now,the inevitable has happened and Sony and Microsoft are geared up to launch their own motion devices,so surely we should all be looking at them carefully,all three systems,to see who offers the best?

Well apparently none of you are too interested in that,from what I've seen on VGchartz lately half the users bash the Playstation Move without giving a look at the details,then the other two quarters are nicely devided between users treating Natal as the second coming of Christ and the rest maintaing that Nintendo started it and that must be their the best at it.

It all seems a bit unfair,one person went so far as to say Hate for the Playstation Move is justified....WTF? If something is successful it will inevitably be copied.Touchscreen technology did not come with the DS,nor did motion control come with the Wii,the ideas themselves have been talked about for years in technology and media,Nintendo may have been the first to apply the methods to be a games console control method,but they created neither idea.

Natal is a more advanced eyetoy,it's all it ever was,and where as that may be fun,that's a blatant copying as you all believe the Move to be,however I see very little "justified" hate for Natal on this matter.

I know Move looks like a wireless clone of the WiiMote and Nunchuck,but after observing several viewings and reading several sources,I personally see the Playstation Move as the best of both the opposing controls into one.It offers the "exciting" capabillities that the Wii's lack of 1:1 promised on and never delivered,and for all you Natal fans,it has shown that it has several Natal like features to go with it's physical controller,as the Move is used alongside the PlaystationEYE.Of course now I've said this,people will probably say Sony copied Microsoft too...*sighs*

Anyway,sorry this is so long,it's just been frustrating me lately,people's lack of acceptance of the Playstation Move and consistent bashing of it.I for one will be picking up the controller at the end of the year,along with SOCOM4.

Sorry if I've offended anyone by bashing their favoured console.Comment on this though,what do you see for motion control gaming?

If the Wii is anything to go by....1 good game every 6 months and shovelware titles every day in between.

So basically this post summed up: "Motion controls sux when Nintendo does it, but kick ass when Sony does it!"

So let me get this straight.. the Move should be off limits for criticism but the Wii can go through 4 years of unjustified mockery and bashing and that's ok? I say if Sony is going to follow in Nintendo's footsteps, they deserve all the same shit Nintendo recieved from people. You whine about people bashing the Move but in the same breath go on to bash the Wii? Sounds to me like you're trying to have your cake and eat it too.

Gotta love the hypocracy of Sony fans.

 



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The thing is though,I think that the Wii deserves it,until Wii motion plus it never delivered on it's promise of 1:1 motion controls,and on top of that it's now lead t the creation of two more motion controls,Natal and Move.

I find it ironic that it would be me,a Sony Fanboy, to see the potential in Move that others won't,cause of course no one would believe a Sony Fanboy praising Sony,it must be our job to shun all others and put them on top of a pedestal.

Thing is dude,it's not like that at all.I just stepped back away from all the trolling and flaming on this site and the web,had a look at the respective controls,and it looks to me that the Move is the best of a bad bunch.It blends the other two into one,it's complately wireless unlike the wii and nunchuck,has 1:1 motion so far so good with what I've seen and read anyway and it has controlers there in case the controllerless approach doesn't kick off.Motion controls are there whether I like it or not,I'm always gonna dislike them most probably,but I WILL be buying the move to try it for myself,if I don't like it,I'll give it to my cousin,or just let it gather dust.

 

 



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agreed

also socom4 will rule it will surprise most

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I think that you're unjustly bashing the Wii.

"If the Wii is anything to go by....1 good game every 6 months and shovelware titles every day in between."

I'm sorry, but that is COMPLETE and total failure on your part. Also, how about you actually play games that implement motion controls well (Resident Evil 4, No More Heroes series, Zelda, Red Steel series, Cursed Mountain, ect.) and then comment on motion controls? Also, saying that just better technology is the way to go is pointless. That's what PCs are for. I want an experience on a console that my PC can't give me (the main reason I'm a PC gamer) and the Wii is the only console ever that can do that.

Better tech =/= better

New ways to play games = better



sniper936 said:

trust me, many kids try to dispute, despite the raw facts. No matter how optimistic someone can be, when u test consoles and match them up, there is always a winner, no opinion needed, but they think that if they complain and call me biased, then it will help their console out. Its that almost all wii owners and many 360 owners dont know anything about their console. they dont know the hardware, and how it compares to other consoles, i mean some ps3 owners dont know that either, but those who do actually know stuff on their system, and can apply that in a dispute, theres no come back. but oh its funny to see them try.

Those of us that don't know about hardware don't give a crap.

 

I'm a PC gamer, and have built several PCs. I have a good understanding of hardware in PCs and in consoles.

 

Nonetheless, I don't give a crap. I build PCs because it's fun to build them, not becausemI want the best graphics or framerate.

 

Real gamers (yes, I went there) only care about the games. They care nothing about hardware. For this reason, almost every sony fanboy I've met (and most PC fanboys other than myself) I do not consider "REAL" gamers. (Notice the difference between "fans" and "fanboys". I admit, I am a PC fanboy, and Sony can die in a ditch because I hate all of their consoles. At least I have the decency to admit that "Yes, I'm biased".)



SmoothCriminal said:
I think that you're unjustly bashing the Wii.

"If the Wii is anything to go by....1 good game every 6 months and shovelware titles every day in between."

I'm sorry, but that is COMPLETE and total failure on your part. Also, how about you actually play games that implement motion controls well (Resident Evil 4, No More Heroes series, Zelda, Red Steel series, Cursed Mountain, ect.) and then comment on motion controls? Also, saying that just better technology is the way to go is pointless. That's what PCs are for. I want an experience on a console that my PC can't give me (the main reason I'm a PC gamer) and the Wii is the only console ever that can do that.

Better tech =/= better

New ways to play games = better

Disagree

Both aren't better.

It depends on the games. Not on the technology and not how to play them.

Mediocre games with great graphics are just as bland as mediocre games with motion controls.