That doesn't matter. I'm not expecting it to sell GTA:SA levels. I'm expecting it to sell at LEAST 5 Million. It's a Grand Theft Auto game on the most popular platform ever. Stop making excuses for it. People were expecting it to be HUGE before it released. It sold poorly for a GTA game. Fact.

Can you prove he is an alt? And the facts aren't misleading at all... You just don't want to hear them. They are GTA sales figures on the 2 most sold platforms to date. GTA DS should have done much, much more. Again, not GTA San Andreas levels of sales, but at least doing GTA VCS like sales.

Now i ask you. Simple question, needs a yes or no answer. Did GTA:CW sell below par for a GTA game?

"I'm expecting it to sell at LEAST 5 Million. It's a Grand Theft Auto game on the most popular platform ever."

Pardon my French, but that is bullshit. Owners of any system won't buy 5 million copies of a game just because it has a popular series in the title. It has to follow the winning formula of the series as well (even Final Fantasy has themes that make the formula). Just because we are many doesn't mean we get to be told what to buy like sheep.

I like the fence. It gives me two sides to laugh at and lets me scratch those hard to reach places nice and easily :P

OT: Congratulations to the game for reaching 1 million. I personally thought it would take a little less time but there's no point crying over spoilt milk now is there?

That doesn't matter?  That matters a lot.  It doesn't matter because you don't want it to.  I guess we can compare NSMB Wii to Mario Strikers Charged and Mario Super Sluggers just because it is the same IP.  I find it funny how the DS has suddenly become the most popular platform ever when Sony fans want it to.  Normally there is wailing and gnashing of teeth when someone brings up the DS surpassing the PS2.

So let me quote Viper:

You are asking gamers who enjoy GTA, to accept that a game that looks like this:

Now, many Nintendo fans are willing to step back and play games that have retro looks. But you Sony and Microsoft "hardcore" do nothing but talk about graphics all day. Then when a GTA game comes to a platform that 1) has never had GTA, and 2) has gamers who are more open-minded to new, or even retro, experiences comes out and doesn't sell insane numbers AS FAST as the previous games you cry that the game is a failure because it hasn't posted 6 million in sales.

Again, I ask you in all seriousness: Do you believe that if Halo appeared on ANY PLATFORM HANDHELD other than ZUNE, and looked akin to the image created, that Halo fans are going to go out and buy both the game and platform that they don't support? Do you really believe that Halo Warz would sell the same, or even 2/3's of the same numbers as Halo 3?

CW is not great, the fact is COP The Recruit, even with a worse story line, has better graphics...so rockstar could have make more and there were other good games to play, even MANY!
So many that the userbase blows up in every direction.

2D Halo... if it played like Contra, it could still sell, just not in the millions. It could still make a good spinoff franchise, just anyone expecting 5 million is not being realistic.

Now if they got Treasure to develop that game, even if it didn't sell that much, it would kick ass.

It doesn't have to follow a "winning formula" at all. I can name a bunch of games that have took steps back on previous games in a series. GTA4 being a prime example, removing all the "fun" of GTA:SA, yet selling VERY well due to being called Grand Theft Auto.

Gears of War 2. The main pull for the game was the online, and the online was TERRIBLE. Yet it still managed to do blockbuster numbers.

Modern Warfare 2. A huge letdown when compared to the original Modern Warfare. Yet look at the sales of THAT. You think it would have sold so well if it was called "World at War 2"?

Thanks. That's all i needed

bad game...... good sales though........