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NJ5 said:
Squilliam said:
So how long until the PSP3D shows up?

Right after they find a video of an old tech demo they can put in Youtube, in order to prove that Sony thought of it first.

 

Don't worry, they already got that covered



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Euphoria14 said:
superchunk said:
RE: Kids and 3D

My kids (4,6,7) absolutely LOVE 3D stuff and have asked repeatedly why they can't watch stuff at home in 3D.

Sony is just back peddling to its investors as to why Nintendo has once again beaten them to the next requirement in gaming.

Also, considering Sony's push for 3D TVs using the active shutter system (which I despise), Nintendo is one-upping the idea with the far more realistic approach of no glasses.

What was Sony supposed to do huh, stick 3D TV Sets on top of their PS3 models?

Sony will be first to the market with 3D gaming. Sony have been the ones pushing for 3D for a long time now.

Don't act like that isn't the truth and all of a sudden Nintendo are the 3D gaming pioneers.

You do also know there are TVs releasing that require no glasses right?

By the way, I still think this new DS is absolutely fantastic and I will be picking it up on day 1, especially if this E3 showing blows my mind like I expect it to.

I don't care about having to wear/buy glasses (I only go to 3D movies in theaters), I just wish Sony and the other TV companies had focused on the Passive system vs the Active Shutter system. This way the additial cost would have been in the TV instead of each pair of glasses.

So, instead of paying $1500 for a TV and $100-$200 per glasses; you'd pay $2000 for the TV and maybe $2 per glasses. Far more reasonable when you consider the number of people and children in an average movie night/sporting party.

Sony is NOT the first to the market in 3D gaming. PC's have been doing it for awhile now. Again, with very expensive glasses. In fact, with PCs you can make any game 3D.

I never said Nintendo pioneered 3D gaming, just that, as usual, Nintendo's solution will become the standard. i.e. a no glasses system.

TVs with no glasses are not coming out to mainstream users for a few years, which is why I bought my $800 Sony TV in February vs a $1500 "3D" TV. I figure I can buy a far better 3D version for $2000 in a few years and save the money now since the Active Shutter system that Sony and others are pushing royally sucks.

I agree on your last point and very well may grab one myself.



Pesmerga515 said:

SONY'S CHECKLIST

[x] Downplay and mock Nintendo's new hardware implementation.

[ ] Scramble to put it into our own hardware.

[ ] Once finished, mock Nintendo again for not having the slight enhancement that we have for the hardware.

 

 

Yep, looks like they're right on schedule.


You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.



steverhcp02 said:
superchunk said:
RE: Kids and 3D

My kids (4,6,7) absolutely LOVE 3D stuff and have asked repeatedly why they can't watch stuff at home in 3D.

Sony is just back peddling to its investors as to why Nintendo has once again beaten them to the next requirement in gaming.

Also, considering Sony's push for 3D TVs using the active shutter system (which I despise), Nintendo is one-upping the idea with the far more realistic approach of no glasses.

Wrong. Its run of the mill PR. Nothing more, nothing less. Sony has been geeting demolished in marketshare via handhelds, theyre focusing on 3D in living rooms, and have clearly put the PSP and handheld market on the backburner.

In fact it was logical to persue that then try to topple the DS, so they started this in the living room and since their brand carries home theaters, televisions, and blu-ray players it was not only logical for thei investors but for the company in general.

Yep, I know its all PR rubbish. But, clearly the overall response is because of the 3DS and Sony's investors will inevitably ask the question of why PSP isn't going to have this as the rest of Sony is pushing 3D. So, while my comment may be a little fanboyish, the intent is the same.



superchunk said:
Euphoria14 said:
superchunk said:
RE: Kids and 3D

My kids (4,6,7) absolutely LOVE 3D stuff and have asked repeatedly why they can't watch stuff at home in 3D.

Sony is just back peddling to its investors as to why Nintendo has once again beaten them to the next requirement in gaming.

Also, considering Sony's push for 3D TVs using the active shutter system (which I despise), Nintendo is one-upping the idea with the far more realistic approach of no glasses.

What was Sony supposed to do huh, stick 3D TV Sets on top of their PS3 models?

Sony will be first to the market with 3D gaming. Sony have been the ones pushing for 3D for a long time now.

Don't act like that isn't the truth and all of a sudden Nintendo are the 3D gaming pioneers.

You do also know there are TVs releasing that require no glasses right?

By the way, I still think this new DS is absolutely fantastic and I will be picking it up on day 1, especially if this E3 showing blows my mind like I expect it to.

I don't care about having to wear/buy glasses (I only go to 3D movies in theaters), I just wish Sony and the other TV companies had focused on the Passive system vs the Active Shutter system. This way the additial cost would have been in the TV instead of each pair of glasses.

So, instead of paying $1500 for a TV and $100-$200 per glasses; you'd pay $2000 for the TV and maybe $2 per glasses. Far more reasonable when you consider the number of people and children in an average movie night/sporting party.

Sony is NOT the first to the market in 3D gaming. PC's have been doing it for awhile now. Again, with very expensive glasses. In fact, with PCs you can make any game 3D.

I never said Nintendo pioneered 3D gaming, just that, as usual, Nintendo's solution will become the standard. i.e. a no glasses system.

TVs with no glasses are not coming out to mainstream users for a few years, which is why I bought my $800 Sony TV in February vs a $1500 "3D" TV. I figure I can buy a far better 3D version for $2000 in a few years and save the money now since the Active Shutter system that Sony and others are pushing royally sucks.

I agree on your last point and very well may grab one myself.

Well before either of us gets ahead of ourselves we will need to see exactly how this 3D gaming compares to what is available on PCs and will be available on PS3.



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So Nintendo copying the 3D hype Sony created.. foul play.



superchunk said:
steverhcp02 said:
superchunk said:
RE: Kids and 3D

My kids (4,6,7) absolutely LOVE 3D stuff and have asked repeatedly why they can't watch stuff at home in 3D.

Sony is just back peddling to its investors as to why Nintendo has once again beaten them to the next requirement in gaming.

Also, considering Sony's push for 3D TVs using the active shutter system (which I despise), Nintendo is one-upping the idea with the far more realistic approach of no glasses.

Wrong. Its run of the mill PR. Nothing more, nothing less. Sony has been geeting demolished in marketshare via handhelds, theyre focusing on 3D in living rooms, and have clearly put the PSP and handheld market on the backburner.

In fact it was logical to persue that then try to topple the DS, so they started this in the living room and since their brand carries home theaters, televisions, and blu-ray players it was not only logical for thei investors but for the company in general.

Yep, I know its all PR rubbish. But, clearly the overall response is because of the 3DS and Sony's investors will inevitably ask the question of why PSP isn't going to have this as the rest of Sony is pushing 3D. So, while my comment may be a little fanboyish, the intent is the same.

I hardly imagine that the PSP is Sony investors main concern. Your not looking at it logically form a company standpoint. The psp is such a small part of what sony is.

Youre trying to extraploate a single PR press release into some shdow of doubt and Sony back peddling from investors when the big picture sees sony at the forefront of 3d in divisions which are nto only more important for the company but tie together, IE: 3d blu-ray players, 3d televisions hooked to 3d enabled PS3's with Sony surround sound. THAT is the big picture, you are trying to make a mountain out of less than a mole hill and paint some doom and gloom reason why the freaking PSP, selling 30k in the states doesnt have 3d....like investors give a shit right now.



steverhcp02 said:
superchunk said:
steverhcp02 said:
superchunk said:
RE: Kids and 3D

My kids (4,6,7) absolutely LOVE 3D stuff and have asked repeatedly why they can't watch stuff at home in 3D.

Sony is just back peddling to its investors as to why Nintendo has once again beaten them to the next requirement in gaming.

Also, considering Sony's push for 3D TVs using the active shutter system (which I despise), Nintendo is one-upping the idea with the far more realistic approach of no glasses.

Wrong. Its run of the mill PR. Nothing more, nothing less. Sony has been geeting demolished in marketshare via handhelds, theyre focusing on 3D in living rooms, and have clearly put the PSP and handheld market on the backburner.

In fact it was logical to persue that then try to topple the DS, so they started this in the living room and since their brand carries home theaters, televisions, and blu-ray players it was not only logical for thei investors but for the company in general.

Yep, I know its all PR rubbish. But, clearly the overall response is because of the 3DS and Sony's investors will inevitably ask the question of why PSP isn't going to have this as the rest of Sony is pushing 3D. So, while my comment may be a little fanboyish, the intent is the same.

I hardly imagine that the PSP is Sony investors main concern. Your not looking at it logically form a company standpoint. The psp is such a small part of what sony is.

Youre trying to extraploate a single PR press release into some shdow of doubt and Sony back peddling from investors when the big picture sees sony at the forefront of 3d in divisions which are nto only more important for the company but tie together, IE: 3d blu-ray players, 3d televisions hooked to 3d enabled PS3's with Sony surround sound. THAT is the big picture, you are trying to make a mountain out of less than a mole hill and paint some doom and gloom reason why the freaking PSP, selling 30k in the states doesnt have 3d....like investors give a shit right now.

You're absolutely right, the PSP is a very small item on Sony's payroll. I admit that my comment was simply fanboyish in nature.

However, I still detest Sony (as well as other companies) push for Active Shutter 3D systems. Nintendo's desire for a glassless one is far better (hell, even the passive system would be fantastic) and will become the standard.



leo-j said:
lvader said:
Didn't Sony call the DS a gimmick?, I bet Nintendo hopes this ones turns out just the same!
Talking of demographics, designing a handeld for 8-9 year olds with dual screen and stylus control makes even less sense than 3D.

They never called the DS a gimmick..also, it wont since SONY has announced long ago that the Playstation 3 will offer 3d gaming/movies this year..

although the need for glasses is there. If a 3d tv costs that much, I can only imagine how much a 3DS will cost with a screen that can do 3D without glasses, if tv's with glasses cost well over 2k.

 

Gimmick is exactly what Sony called the DS.

""With the DS, it’s fair to say that Nintendo stepped out of the technical race and went for a feature differentiation with the touch screen,” Harrison continued. “But I fear that it won’t have a lasting impact beyond that of a gimmick – so the long-lasting appeal of the platform is at peril as a direct result of that.”"

3D is easy to do on a handheld, multi-layer LCD technology has been around for a while. It won't be that expensive to do.



I wish they would concentrate more on gaming and less on the gimmick that is 3D! It doesn't "enhance" the experience at all for me.