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Forums - Sales Discussion - Why the Wii could fail

i don't think hardware, online, HD, or 3rd pary support would be reasons the wii "fails". they're not reasons the wii is doing well to begin with, so i doubt they will be reasons for wii's "failure". the biggest concern is if devs never utilize the wiimote past the "demo" stage, by "devs" of course this includes nintendo itself. the 1st wave of wii motion sensitive games have been so far unsatisfactory, like TW07, SSX and Cooking Mama. the wiimote will risk becoming a gimmick if the trend continues, and that's what will truly reduce sales. so in a sense it has to do with 3rd party support though it's by consequence. for 2007, the best motion sensitive games are surely gonna come from nintendo itself. let's see just what you can do with the wiimote other than tennis, bowling and baseball.



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Hus said: alright. gimmick controller, fad dies. lack of AAA 3rd party games. Low 3rd party game sales will mean less 3rd party support. wii version will be much inferior to a PS3/360 version of the game Weak online no hard drive HDTV NIn 1st party is nothing but kiddi games.
Even of some us thinks like that it is to harsh to just say it. I Would advice you to edit your post before you make Wiifans made. I understand what you mean with your post and can agree at some points. But this is totally flaming and will only ruin the idea of "Mnementh" post.



 

Short of invoking Zues's wrathe, the Wii isn't going to fail. It won't come anywhere close to that.



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Serves me right for challenging his sales predictions!

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I think the only thing standing in the way of the Wii and an easy win over the 360 and PS3 is 3rd party support, specifically the reluctance of 3rd parties to develop big/expensive games for Nintendo platforms because they have to compete with Nintendo games. The DS has shown that, at least with a crushing market-share advantage, 3rd parties can do swift business on Nintendo platforms. But it will take a lot of convincing on the homefront...



This is what will kill the wii. The PS3 and xbox sell more combined then it. It is reletivly easy to port between them two. Much harder to port to the wii, developers might want to cash in on the two consoles instead of taking a gamble on one.



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Andrew said: This is what will kill the wii. The PS3 and xbox sell more combined then it. It is reletivly easy to port between them two. Much harder to port to the wii, developers might want to cash in on the two consoles instead of taking a gamble on one.
By that reasoning, it will win - as the Wii is an easy port from the PS2 (the most successful console ever), whereas the other 2 platforms are not. ... Nintendo stated a goal of selling 60mill units for the Wii. Currently 10% there, supply limited, still hard to get one. At this stage I think it will be hard for Nintendo to NOT reach their 60mill goal - the biggest restriction at the moment is manufacturing. ... What could hurt/fail the Wii? 1/ MS bring out a controller that completely emulates the Wiimote (not sure of legal implications), or beats it. 2/ A massive earthquake in Japan kills most of the staff at Nintendo development studios (please no!! ). 3/ Sony bring out (within the next 12 months) a *new* playstation 2 - with their own Wiimote. Pretty much certain this won't happen. 4/ A fatal flaw in the hardware, kills off 95% of Wii's / Wiimotes overnight (or a virus?). ... - HD / graphics *cannot* hurt the Wii. Its already accepted that it has WORSE graphics - this can only hurt the 360/PS3. - 3rd party support can only (partially) hurt the Wii. Nintendo will always support it, and this is where most sales come from. If the Wii succeeds in the market, economics ensures that 3rd-party support will follow. - online (or lack of) can't hurt it. Firstly we *know* its coming (and it does work) - so its just a matter of time. Secondly people have been going gaga over the Wii - without any significant online support (except for VC). Online can only be a bonus - not a negative (although it could shorten its lifetime).



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shams said: By that reasoning, it will win - as the Wii is an easy port from the PS2 (the most successful console ever), whereas the other 2 platforms are not.
dude is that supposed to be serious ? ........................
shams said: - HD / graphics *cannot* hurt the Wii. Its already accepted that it has WORSE graphics - this can only hurt the 360/PS3.
they already are, PS3 Madden out sold wii madden. All of Ea's sports games will do better on PS3/360, with Ea having to make a specific wii version... will it be worth it for them. Wii with twice the units is getting outsold.
shams said: - 3rd party support can only (partially) hurt the Wii. Nintendo will always support it, and this is where most sales come from. If the Wii succeeds in the market, economics ensures that 3rd-party support will follow.
madden economics dont help. Spend 20 mill on a PS3/360 version... and then 10 mill on a wii...... that sells less then the PS3 version.
shams said: - online (or lack of) can't hurt it. Firstly we *know* its coming (and it does work) - so its just a matter of time. Secondly people have been going gaga over the Wii - without any significant online support (except for VC). Online can only be a bonus - not a negative (although it could shorten its lifetime).
time is the wiis enemy... between live and home wiis online will be a joke.



Is there news about Wii upgrading firmware to support 720p? Or is it just April Fools' joke?



I don't think that it is plausable that the Wii would "Fail" being that it will probably break  15 to 20 Million unit sales by the end of 2007; at this point (even if sales slow down to Gamecube levels) the Wii will have decent support for the rest of its expected lifespan.

Now, as I see it there are many risks that would force Nintendo to underperform in 2008 and 2009 but the main ones would be Nintendo not comming up with inovative new games that use the system and third party developers not heavily supporting the system.