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Is Valkyria Chronicles a JRPG?

Yes it is. 102 46.15%
 
No. It is not. 68 30.77%
 
Just let it go, d21. Just let it go. 50 22.62%
 
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lestatdark said:
ps3_jrpg_gamer said:
Japanese doesn 't necessery means action or strategy but japanese
it is not a GENRE
JRPGS and WRPGS have nothing to do with genres like Action to Shooters

Classifying games based solely on the country of origin is a bit ridiculous. Why isn't there separation for other genres then? JPlatformers from WPlatformers? JAction-Adventure from WAction-Adventure?

There are inherent differences between a JRPG and a WRPG, differences from story-telling, character development, battle system, story setting, etc, etc. That's what makes them different SUBgenres

 

No one saw my previous post =( at the bottom of page 2, but I want to ask you this then:

What are the differences, in exact definitions, between JRPG and WRPG? Why do we have these sub-genres that aren't very clearly or easily understood by many, when we have other genres that are very intuitive. Why even have these counter-intuitive sub-genres?

Edit: I mean "exact definitions" as in you mention there are differences, but what are they?



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From SEGA

"Valkyria Chronicles™, the first game from SEGA Studios - Japan to utilize the groundbreaking “CANVAS” graphics engine, features a stunningly unique visual style resembling a watercolor painting in motion. Created exclusively for the PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system, this epic role-playing game also marks the debut of the “BLiTZ” battle system, which combines tactical RPG gameplay with direct character control common in action games."

On their page if you search under Action RPGS, there are none found on the PS3.  VC is under RPG.

If anyone has a right to classify a ame, its the COMPANY WHO PUBLISHED/DEVELOPED it. they call it an RPG.  I would agree it is a Tactical RPG (TRPG) under the heading of a JRPG.

So: RPG <----JRPG<----TRPG.  Done

 

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Ssenkahdavic said:

From SEGA

"this epic role-playing game also marks the debut of the “BLiTZ” battle system, which combines tactical RPG gameplay with direct character control common in action games. '

If anyone has a right to classify a ame, its the COMPANY WHO PUBLISHED/DEVELOPED it. they call it an RPG.  I would agree it is a Tactical RPG (TRPG) under the heading of a JRPG.

So: RPG <----JRPG<----TRPG.  Done

 

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We're not questioning whether it's an RPG of some kind (mostly), it's more about whether it's a JRPG or not, and even what a JRPG really is.

Things are getting silly with all of these genres and sub-genres and sub-sub-genres.

It's a Turn-based Tactical Shooter JRPG maybe? That's a bit much.



Ssenkahdavic said:

From SEGA

"this epic role-playing game also marks the debut of the “BLiTZ” battle system, which combines tactical RPG gameplay with direct character control common in action games. '

If anyone has a right to classify a ame, its the COMPANY WHO PUBLISHED/DEVELOPED it. they call it an RPG.  I would agree it is a Tactical RPG (TRPG) under the heading of a JRPG.

So: RPG <----JRPG<----TRPG.  Done

 

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SO basically its part of the RPG genre NOW i get it xD



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JSRPG sounds more like it.



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Ssenkahdavic said:

From SEGA

"this epic role-playing game also marks the debut of the “BLiTZ” battle system, which combines tactical RPG gameplay with direct character control common in action games. '

If anyone has a right to classify a ame, its the COMPANY WHO PUBLISHED/DEVELOPED it. they call it an RPG.  I would agree it is a Tactical RPG (TRPG) under the heading of a JRPG.

So: RPG <----JRPG<----TRPG.  Done

 

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No they can't. If they call it a TPS, it wouldn't be correct.

RPG is the main genre. EVERY WRPG, SRPG or JRPG are RPGs, so this part of the quote tells us nothing.

That guy who wrote the quote sees the game more like a hybrid between SRPG and Action game btw.



It's made by a Japanese developer. I always thought it was a SRPG though.



r505Matt said:
lestatdark said:
ps3_jrpg_gamer said:
Japanese doesn 't necessery means action or strategy but japanese
it is not a GENRE
JRPGS and WRPGS have nothing to do with genres like Action to Shooters

Classifying games based solely on the country of origin is a bit ridiculous. Why isn't there separation for other genres then? JPlatformers from WPlatformers? JAction-Adventure from WAction-Adventure?

There are inherent differences between a JRPG and a WRPG, differences from story-telling, character development, battle system, story setting, etc, etc. That's what makes them different SUBgenres

 

No one saw my previous post =( at the bottom of page 2, but I want to ask you this then:

What are the differences, in exact definitions, between JRPG and WRPG? Why do we have these sub-genres that aren't very clearly or easily understood by many, when we have other genres that are very intuitive. Why even have these counter-intuitive sub-genres?

Edit: I mean "exact definitions" as in you mention there are differences, but what are they?

Far as I can figure wRPG and jRPG are two distinctions that are separate from the disctinctions of battle system: Action RPG, Turn Based RPG, and Strategy RPG.

jRPGs are defined by a linear story with little to know choice within while wRPGs are all about choice and dialog decisions and making your own character.  Sometimes a game lik Demon's Souls will take one aspect from wRPG like the character creation, but overall I would still call it a jRPG because of the lack of dialog choices and the story only having a couple of meaningful decisions. 

Separating things by battle system is much simpler, but sadly that is not the norm.  By the way, if how close a game is to FF defines it as a jRPG why are games like Kingdom Hearts which have a completely different action based battle system put under the jRPG mantle.  Seems like someone would be just as dissapointed in a Kingdom Hearts as they would Valkyria Chronicles if they really wanted something like an FF.



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Barozi said:
Ssenkahdavic said:

From SEGA

"this epic role-playing game also marks the debut of the “BLiTZ” battle system, which combines tactical RPG gameplay with direct character control common in action games. '

If anyone has a right to classify a ame, its the COMPANY WHO PUBLISHED/DEVELOPED it. they call it an RPG.  I would agree it is a Tactical RPG (TRPG) under the heading of a JRPG.

So: RPG <----JRPG<----TRPG.  Done

 

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No they can't. If they call it a TPS, it wouldn't be correct.

RPG is the main genre. EVERY WRPG, SRPG or JRPG are RPGs, so this part of the quote tells us nothing.

That guy who wrote the quote sees the game more like a hybrid between SRPG and Action game btw.

Since this is Sega's official webpage, the "guy" who wrote it is SEGA (in a sense).  And he calls it a role-playing game with tactical and action elements.

This entire argument once did not matter.  On the NES, how many WRPGs were there?  Not many.  Then you just called them RPGs (or console RPGs).  Most of the western style RPGs were on the computer (thus Computer RPGs).  Once they moved to the consoles (and JRPGs never took off on the computer), there HAD to be some distinction between the two.  That is why JPRG and WRPG just make sense.



It's classic squad based strategy game (it doesn't even have any serious character upgrade system)
For unknown reason that genre is known as sRPG for console gamers (i guess marketing to sell it to more people in Japan)



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