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Is Valkyria Chronicles a JRPG?

Yes it is. 102 46.15%
 
No. It is not. 68 30.77%
 
Just let it go, d21. Just let it go. 50 22.62%
 
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d21lewis said:
I asked God for a sign and this is what I came up with:

Control 1 person, in real time, using RPG elements (ie: Zelda/Alundra): Action RPG

Control a party and use RPG elements (leveling up, quests, etc.) (ie: Final Fantasy/Grandia): Traditional RPG

Control an army, and battle other armies (ie: Valkyria Chronicles/ Herzog Zwei): Strategy RPG

I'm sure someone will break my definitions in about 30 seconds (or say, "who do you think you are, d21!?) and for that reason, I'm leaving this thread ignorant and happy!

Actually, that's pretty good. But...

Are there any "control 1 person" RPGs that are turn-based? What about games like KOTOR (turn-based action-ish?). How's a game like Dragon Age: Origins work into this? You have a party, but only control 1 at a time, but it's very strategic.



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what about a new genre... called a JTBS, Japanese Turn Based Strategy or JRTT, Japanese Real Time Tactics?



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Xen said:
Kasz216 said:
joshin69 said:
If Sega call it an rpg and it was made in japan, quess what it is?

Just to be clear on this.  Nintendo calls Zelda an RPG.

Honestly? I thought it was shiggy's least liked genre.

I don't think it was him in particular that calls it that.  Just every once and a while they'll say something like "best selling RPG" etc.

Whoever made Zelda 2: Adventure of Link certaintly used RPGs as a base.


I'm not sure Shiggy even has favorite genres though.  It seems more like he just creates stuff and figures out the genre later.  His development style is very strange and organic.  He got the idea for Pikimin while gardening... etc.



Jumpin said:
lestatdark said:
It's not a JRPG.

It falls in line with common SRPG's like Fire Emblem and Shining Force, albeit the more action oriented layout when you're choosing the actions (which made the game much easier than the referenced SRPG's)

Fire Emblem and Shining Force are both JRPGs. Strategy RPGs like that are a sub-genre. "JRPG" is a term used to distinguish the Japanese made RPGs from the non-Japanese made RPGs. There is a difference though between games like Fire Emblem and games like Advance Wars (which is not a JRPG).

 

Some games from Japan, though, are listed as RPGs when they are in fact not. The most common of these is Zelda.

Is Panzer General a JRPG also?  I believe SRPGs need to be broken off as their own niche, because of what is involved.  A SRPG to me has its own focus.  Yes, there is stat-building, but the focus is on the use of strategy/unit position/etc... to complete missions.  In a JRPG, it is on the story and also the building up of characters and improving their stats.



r505Matt said:
d21lewis said:
I asked God for a sign and this is what I came up with:

Control 1 person, in real time, using RPG elements (ie: Zelda/Alundra): Action RPG

Control a party and use RPG elements (leveling up, quests, etc.) (ie: Final Fantasy/Grandia): Traditional RPG

Control an army, and battle other armies (ie: Valkyria Chronicles/ Herzog Zwei): Strategy RPG

I'm sure someone will break my definitions in about 30 seconds (or say, "who do you think you are, d21!?) and for that reason, I'm leaving this thread ignorant and happy!

Actually, that's pretty good. But...

Are there any "control 1 person" RPGs that are turn-based? What about games like KOTOR (turn-based action-ish?). How's a game like Dragon Age: Origins work into this? You have a party, but only control 1 at a time, but it's very strategic.

I was ignorant and happy!  Why did you lure me back?  Why!?



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Kasz216 said:
Xen said:
Kasz216 said:
joshin69 said:
If Sega call it an rpg and it was made in japan, quess what it is?

Just to be clear on this.  Nintendo calls Zelda an RPG.

Honestly? I thought it was shiggy's least liked genre.

I don't think it was him in particular that calls it that.  Just every once and a while they'll say something like "best selling RPG" etc.

Whoever made Zelda 2: Adventure of Link certaintly used RPGs as a base.


I'm not sure Shiggy even has favorite genres though.  It seems more like he just creates stuff and figures out the genre later.  His development style is very strange and organic.  He got the idea for Pikimin while gardening... etc.

Well, that's what I've heard. As for Nintendo, they may just be mistaken while talking about the game, PR people aren't first-class gamers after all... Zelda 2 is the only rare anomaly in the whole series I think.



ps3_jrpg_gamer said:
yes it is JAPANESE-RPG if you don 't know what the j means
jrpgs are not defined by gaming gerne but of company and the country where it was created

Actually JRPG is now a reference to a sub-genre of RPGs, that happen to resemble what was traditionally seen in the approach Japanese took towards doing RPGs.  There is a greater interesting in HOW a game plays, and its art style, than there is WHERE it is made.  Because of this, JRPG refers to a subset of RPGs.



richardhutnik said:
Jumpin said:
lestatdark said:
It's not a JRPG.

It falls in line with common SRPG's like Fire Emblem and Shining Force, albeit the more action oriented layout when you're choosing the actions (which made the game much easier than the referenced SRPG's)

Fire Emblem and Shining Force are both JRPGs. Strategy RPGs like that are a sub-genre. "JRPG" is a term used to distinguish the Japanese made RPGs from the non-Japanese made RPGs. There is a difference though between games like Fire Emblem and games like Advance Wars (which is not a JRPG).

 

Some games from Japan, though, are listed as RPGs when they are in fact not. The most common of these is Zelda.

Is Panzer General a JRPG also?  I believe SRPGs need to be broken off as their own niche, because of what is involved.  A SRPG to me has its own focus.  Yes, there is stat-building, but the focus is on the use of strategy/unit position/etc... to complete missions.  In a JRPG, it is on the story and also the building up of characters and improving their stats.

Exactly my point and what I've tried to say in this long thread. They are too different in focus and gameplay to be considered the same as JRPGs. It isn't as JRPGs are even a genre, it's just a categorization of games with similar offsets, which doesn't fall completely in line with SRPGs



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d21lewis said:
r505Matt said:
d21lewis said:
I asked God for a sign and this is what I came up with:

Control 1 person, in real time, using RPG elements (ie: Zelda/Alundra): Action RPG

Control a party and use RPG elements (leveling up, quests, etc.) (ie: Final Fantasy/Grandia): Traditional RPG

Control an army, and battle other armies (ie: Valkyria Chronicles/ Herzog Zwei): Strategy RPG

I'm sure someone will break my definitions in about 30 seconds (or say, "who do you think you are, d21!?) and for that reason, I'm leaving this thread ignorant and happy!

Actually, that's pretty good. But...

Are there any "control 1 person" RPGs that are turn-based? What about games like KOTOR (turn-based action-ish?). How's a game like Dragon Age: Origins work into this? You have a party, but only control 1 at a time, but it's very strategic.

I was ignorant and happy!  Why did you lure me back?  Why!?

Because I think you're onto something good, and can thus leave informed and happy =) just need to work out a few kinks, maybe. So maybe, by control a party, it doesn't matter if you control them all FF or Grandia style, but if you can switch on the fly too then? I never really considered KOTOR an action rpg, but it has action elements right? But it can still be traditional style maybe?

Then there's a game like Suikoden, with both traditional and strategic aspects of gameplay, but that would still be, overall, a traditional RPG with strategic elements added on I think?

DA:O is starting to look, in terms of gameplay (which is what genre is about), as a traditional RPG with action elements. Maybe? It's not so cut and dry right now because we're just working this out, but I think it will hold up =) and I hope it will.



jrpg means japan rpg :S

of course it is