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Forums - Sales Discussion - Final Fantasy XIII - Western Sales Adjusted! 1M+ PS3... 600k+ 360!

jarrod on 21 March 2010
Euphoria14 said:
Just curious since I see it thrown around that Sony paid to have it exclusive in Japan. Didn't Famitsu report that the reason it was most likely PS3 exclusive in Japan was because S-E and Sony had an exclusive contract and to keep Sony from suing the pants off S-E and MS for breaching that contract that Sony got to keep it exclusive in Japan plus some sort of monetary bonus?

I read this somewhere.

If someone can prove it wrong and show me that it was Sony who paid and MS somehow got it for free then go ahead and provide me with a link please. I would like to have what is most likely the truth.

Can you show us some link or reference to this article you're remembering?  Because honestly, I've never read anything like that from an official source like Famitsu?

I'd say logic dictates Sony provided "incentives" in Japan and Microsoft did the same in the west.  Both regions had exclusive advertising and collector's system bundles for each of their platforms.  And honestly if Sony didn't, there's really no reason SE would've signed any theoretical contract in the first place.



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jarrod on 21 March 2010
hikaruchan said:
jarrod said:
hikaruchan said:
jarrod said:
NSS7 said:
Well done Square Enix. Now everyone cannot blame SE for making X360 ver of FFXIII. 2/5 of launch week sales was from X360 ver. Japan should get X360 ver. That could add 0.4 million more sales 

I think a JP 360 release could've added maybe 200-300k at launch... now though, no way.  The used market is flooded with FFXIII, with trade in prices being as low as 200 yen.  It's actually probably the fastest and most severe used turnaround for a game Japan this generation.

I do think the inevitable FFXIII International will be multiplatform in Japan though.  MS may even try to do another marketing deal to push their version.

FFXIII International is inveitable but it will not be on XBOX 360 because Microsoft did not buy any rights to release FFXIII on the XBOX 360 in Japan because they know the Japanese would not buy it on the XBOX 360 in quantity's worth the effort of the release on the system.

 

Doubt that.  Really, the only reason it wouldn't be on 360 would be if Sony ponied up again to nab exclusivity... and from Sony's perspective, that's probably not worth it.  They already got all the mileage they need out of FFXIII, letting it hit 360 a year later is really of no consequence to them, especially since their version of International's likely to outsell a 360 rev by 5:1 or better.

Microsoft on the other hand, I can see throwing some ad support SE's way for even a year late release.  They did it for FFXI and MoHun Frontier, and those games are even older...

But Microsoft did not pay for release rights in Japan only in NA/Europe it was a calculated Business decision that it would sell on XBOX 360 in the west but not Japan if FFXIII had been released in Japan it would have soled about 150K-200K max lifetime and been out soled 10:1 so FFXIII International will like FFXIII will most likely never be on on the XBOX 360 in Japan.         

Microsoft didn't "pay" for release rights period.  They likely paid for western advertising and a system bundle as part of an incentive plan to get in on 360.  And Sony likely did the same to hold on to their JP exclusive.  On the other hand, I doubt anyone's really going to want to throw any cash SE's way for the International version, but of the two I'd say Microsoft's more likely than Sony.

If FFXIII skipped 360 in Japan purely based "low calculated sales" then how the hell did Star Ocean 4, The Last Remnant and FFXI make it to 360 in Japan?  Hell, why are Nier and Front Mission getting 360 releases there too... 200k lifetime is more than any of them will ever manage?  What you're implying here doesn't make any real sense...



Naum on 21 March 2010

600k did sound a little low for a game that gets most of it sales in the first 2 weeks.



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HappyHenry on 21 March 2010

it hasnt been a flop but it used to shift bigger numbers than it does now .I prefer westen rpgs now i cant stand all the random battles in FF give me Mass Effect 2 or Fable any day



Euphoria14 on 21 March 2010
jarrod said:
Euphoria14 said:
Just curious since I see it thrown around that Sony paid to have it exclusive in Japan. Didn't Famitsu report that the reason it was most likely PS3 exclusive in Japan was because S-E and Sony had an exclusive contract and to keep Sony from suing the pants off S-E and MS for breaching that contract that Sony got to keep it exclusive in Japan plus some sort of monetary bonus?

I read this somewhere.

If someone can prove it wrong and show me that it was Sony who paid and MS somehow got it for free then go ahead and provide me with a link please. I would like to have what is most likely the truth.

Can you show us some link or reference to this article you're remembering?  Because honestly, I've never read anything like that from an official source like Famitsu?

I'd say logic dictates Sony provided "incentives" in Japan and Microsoft did the same in the west.  Both regions had exclusive advertising and collector's system bundles for each of their platforms.  And honestly if Sony didn't, there's really no reason SE would've signed any theoretical contract in the first place.

Did you see my post right after that? I said it was a Kotaku article and I believe someone said it was claimed as false, so I retracted what I said.



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Shorty11857 on 21 March 2010
HappyHenry said:
it hasnt been a flop but it used to shift bigger numbers than it does now .I prefer westen rpgs now i cant stand all the random battles in FF give me Mass Effect 2 or Fable any day

It's first week sales in the west are more than X and XII and there are no random battles so...



Wagram on 21 March 2010

Lol some people. :/



Mummelmann on 22 March 2010
Wagram said:
Lol some people. :/



jarrod on 22 March 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
SaviorX said:
Well, I guess it is time to move the goalposts:
FF13 is a disappointment if it doesn't surpass FFX or FF7 in sales. I mean, it is multiplatform! SE themselves said they wanted 10 million.....

Just saying though, Wada said he would "hope" for it to sell like FF7

But when he said what he "expected"....he said 6 Million Shipped

"Expectations" & "Hope" are different things.

The original expectation was "over 6 million".  Wada said at the western release announcement in November however that they expected FFXIII to be the best selling game in the series.  Exact quote...

“When we say that it is going to be the best selling title ever, the hurdle/bar is really high because of Final Fantasy VII sold 10 million units.”



Wagram on 22 March 2010

Is it just me or did EU get adjusted up again by like 20-30k?