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kjj4t9rdad said:
FastFord58 said:
Kasz216 said:
damndl0ser said:
Kasz216 said:
damndl0ser said:
Wow, it looks as if 3rd party developers probably love the 360! Eye opening to say the least!

Keep in mind... 360 had a head start.

How exactly does this matter?  The 360's third party performance is astounding no matter.  Its nearly equal to that of the PS3 and th Wii combined.

How does it matter?  It's been out longer... I mean, what more is there to say.

If one guy is ahead of another guy by 10 homeruns career totals wise and he's been in the majors a year longer... what's that really tell us?

Million sellers divided by months on the market is a better metric.

I mean, 360's been out a year longer... and it's been what... about 4 years?  That's like a 25% advantage.

I bet if you discount all of the first year mil sellers, it still wouldn't change the number in a meaningful way.

I think the number is 10.  This would make a meaningful change.

Actually I just did a quick run through.  The Number is 16.  Which would put 360 at 76... the same number of million sellers as the Wii.



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damndl0ser said:
Kasz216 said:
damndl0ser said:
Wow, it looks as if 3rd party developers probably love the 360! Eye opening to say the least!

Keep in mind... 360 had a head start.

How exactly does this matter?  The 360's third party performance is astounding no matter.  Its nearly equal to that of the PS3 and th Wii combined.

It is astounding for certain publishers. 

Really, it's best to look at games individually.  For example, Ubisoft probably favors 360, given the success of Splinter Cell on Xbox and the fact that Assassin's Creed II sold a bit better on 360 (though it's showing stronger legs on ps3).  On the other hand, I'm sure SE is quite happy with ps3, given the performance of FFXIII, while Sega is doing great on Wii with the success of the Mario & Sonic series.  They're also doing pretty good on ps3 as well, given the success of the Yakuza games and titles like Resonance of Fate and Bayonetta performing better on ps3.  A company like Activision probably favors the Wii for titles like Guitar Hero and 360 for games like Call of Duty.  Then there's EA, who's doing great on all three platforms, given the success of Madden on 360, Fifa and Dante's Inferno on ps3, and EA Active on Wii.



leo-j said:
Twistedpixel said:
Microsoft looks like a bigger publisher than I have seen them given credit for. Interesting stuff right there considering the size of their stable of 1st/2nd parties.

just because they have sales doesn't mean they are any bigger than you thought they were..

 

there 1st party studios are microscopic next to SONY and NINTENDO

The year head start somewhat inflates their numbers here.  They were releasing million sellers in 2006 (PD0, PGR3) while Sony and Nintendo were still supporting the ps2/gc.  Even in 2007 Sony was still supporting the ps2 to a degree, with releases like God of War II, while Microsoft's efforts were focused fully on the 360.

Within the next few months Sony will fly by Microsoft in million sellers for the gen, as shown in my earlier post.  They'll soon be at 15-17, while Microsoft will be at 14 until Alan Wake eventually crosses a million.

And Nintendo flew by Microsoft years ago.



Wow.. Electronic Arts has 47 million sellers this generation!!



makingmusic476 said:
leo-j said:
Twistedpixel said:
Microsoft looks like a bigger publisher than I have seen them given credit for. Interesting stuff right there considering the size of their stable of 1st/2nd parties.

just because they have sales doesn't mean they are any bigger than you thought they were..

 

there 1st party studios are microscopic next to SONY and NINTENDO

The year head start somewhat inflates their numbers here.  They were releasing million sellers in 2006 (PD0, PGR3) while Sony and Nintendo were still supporting the ps2/gc.  Even in 2007 Sony was still supporting the ps2 to a degree, with releases like God of War II, while Microsoft's efforts were focused fully on the 360.

Within the next few months Sony will fly by Microsoft in million sellers for the gen, as shown in my earlier post.  They'll soon be at 15-17, while Microsoft will be at 14 until Alan Wake eventually crosses a million.

And Nintendo flew by Microsoft years ago.

Knowing the amount of studios they both own, Microsoft's numbers here are more impressive than Sony's even with that extra year.



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themanwithnoname said:
makingmusic476 said:
leo-j said:
Twistedpixel said:
Microsoft looks like a bigger publisher than I have seen them given credit for. Interesting stuff right there considering the size of their stable of 1st/2nd parties.

just because they have sales doesn't mean they are any bigger than you thought they were..

 

there 1st party studios are microscopic next to SONY and NINTENDO

The year head start somewhat inflates their numbers here.  They were releasing million sellers in 2006 (PD0, PGR3) while Sony and Nintendo were still supporting the ps2/gc.  Even in 2007 Sony was still supporting the ps2 to a degree, with releases like God of War II, while Microsoft's efforts were focused fully on the 360.

Within the next few months Sony will fly by Microsoft in million sellers for the gen, as shown in my earlier post.  They'll soon be at 15-17, while Microsoft will be at 14 until Alan Wake eventually crosses a million.

And Nintendo flew by Microsoft years ago.

Knowing the amount of studios they both own, Microsoft's numbers here are more impressive than Sony's even with that extra year.

How would you even compare that?  I mean, take the number of million sellers for both divided by the number of months divided by the number of studios they worked with or something?

Something like that'd be kinda hard to eyeball, especially since Sony's studios are also supporting the ps2 and psp.



Where is the 10M list?



I LOVE GIGGS said:
Wow.. Electronic Arts has 47 million sellers this generation!!

And still layin' folks off and posting losses... it's crazy.



FastFord58 said:
Kasz216 said:
damndl0ser said:
Kasz216 said:
damndl0ser said:
Wow, it looks as if 3rd party developers probably love the 360! Eye opening to say the least!

Keep in mind... 360 had a head start.

How exactly does this matter?  The 360's third party performance is astounding no matter.  Its nearly equal to that of the PS3 and th Wii combined.

How does it matter?  It's been out longer... I mean, what more is there to say.

If one guy is ahead of another guy by 10 homeruns career totals wise and he's been in the majors a year longer... what's that really tell us?

Million sellers divided by months on the market is a better metric.

I mean, 360's been out a year longer... and it's been what... about 4 years?  That's like a 25% advantage.

I bet if you discount all of the first year mil sellers, it still wouldn't change the number in a meaningful way.

Actually, discounting their last year would be more accurate.  It's not a perfect scenario though, as Microsoft's first year was pretty light support wise, while PS3 got tons of 360 ports it's first year and Wii got a lot of PS2/GC port ups it's first year.



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