The vast majority disagrees.  Quality is inherently subjective, but the most people clearly prefer the games on Wii to those on 360 or PS3.

Your thread is generic.

Agent, nier replicant, the last guardian, gt5, FF13Versus, TwistedMetal, ModnationRacers, New Yakuza, LBP2, Killzone 3, along with the many unnanounced titles that Sony has mentioned to show at e3. About 3 price drops.

He has no proof that people who wanted gow3 or ff13 already bought the system. FF13 gave ps3 a huge boost, hence, not everyone had the system for the game. Same happened to GTA4 and others. Everytime someone bring this up, they are proven wrong.

Maybe the slim 360 can negate sales, but they are already at the 200$ price point, which is far more important that a 300$ slim ps3. It will not make as big of a difference as going from 400$ to 300$ and changing a case that a lot of people felt the urge to hate. This is also trending to be ps3s biggest year, while 360 has already peaked.

Natal doesn't have a greater potential anything, they are both very similar and target the same market. They will do about the same, give or take some unforeseen smash hit or fad.

Some interesting replies and points....I just ignore the guys who throw the toys out the pram. I still stand by my points though but that's cool, it would be boring if we all agreed on everything.

Sony is in the more precarious position for sure because they are in the red as a whole and Microsoft, the corporation, is firmly in the black. But MS has to watch out for the interests of their shareholders too. Microsoft is very profitable but their stock apparently isn`t exactly that great these days. For a company like Microsoft that has grown so much over the years, that growth had to slow down eventually though. You can`t have rising stocks all the time. But you know how shareholders are. Its all about, "what have you done for me lately?" with them. Especially for those who bought Microsoft stock recently.

Yeah, but whenever the shareholders get pissy, Microsoft just starts doing favorable buybacks and options.  They like to "moneyhat" everyone it seems. lol.

Plus, I'd say Xbox is out of the woods at this point, it's actually seen as an attractive business by shareholders these days and it's been shouldering the struggling Zune business too.  Microsft won't ever need to "account" for the previous losses on Xbox 1, and 360's profitable now and will likely be profitable overall by the time the generation ends.  That's probably the best they could've hoped for, and is how Microsoft seems to prefer entering new markets (loss with the first model, profit with the second, takeover with the third).

yea... and 99% of console total sales happen below $300 unless the item gets discontinued early.

I can spout stats too

Now, I'm not saying price can't be a hinderance, but reducing price won't magically boost sales either. There is also the issue that the PS2 (typically used to prove this 70% thing) spent a lot less time over $200 than it did under $200.

None of those games will boost PS3 sales past ~15k in their given release weeks except maybe FFversus13. His proof for existing owners already owning the console can be seen by the Hardware numbers. In Japan you can obviously see how much large titles can boost HW sales for any given console. In America/Others this is not as apparent unless it is something like Halo 3. Every time someone brings this up, the boost is too insignificant to blame on any one cause.

As for Natal, it differentiates itself from the Wii audience MUCH more than Sony's Move does. With Microsoft's large advertising resources and FUD creators, they could make their product much more known to the public than Sony can. Also, Sony's Move is rumored to start at $100 with the starter pack, a hefty price for an already expensive console.

Christmas holidays can really screw up sales predictions. A little more than 6 months ago, the 360 was well on its way to widening their lead to 9 million against the PS3 with worldwide weekly sales in favor of the 360. Then Sony introduced a price cut via the slim along with some major games. Now the difference is around 6 million with worldwide weekly sales in favor of the PS3.

Hardly anyone predicted this would happen. There was an overwhelming sentiment that the 360 was going to keep at least a 10 million lead and end up as undisputed 2nd by the time next generation consoles arrived since the 360 usually does pretty well in the Christmas season. Now some people are convinced that the PS3 still has a chance. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. Either way, it is too hard to tell at this point.

genric games? IDK about that but I do agree that PS3 wont catch up to 360 for as long as this gen is relevant