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nordlead on 17 March 2010

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justsomeguy on 17 March 2010

I believe in the G4 interview he also said there would be a complete package (including the console) for those people new to the PS3 that want Move.

As for me, I don't have much interest in motion controls and thought the Wii would fail horribly. So, who knows what will happen with Move. Although, Sony does have a lot working against them. Primarily the entry cost (consider console + controller and you're easily back over $300).

Ultimately I think it comes down to the games. If they come out with some good games then people will buy it. For me, if they came out with a golf game that was really 1:1 I would most likely buy it. And if it was really like golf I'd be buying a replacement controller every month or so as golf is probably the most frustrating thing ever. Well, except for women.



nordlead on 17 March 2010
justsomeguy said:
I believe in the G4 interview he also said there would be a complete package (including the console) for those people new to the PS3 that want Move.

As for me, I don't have much interest in motion controls and thought the Wii would fail horribly. So, who knows what will happen with Move. Although, Sony does have a lot working against them. Primarily the entry cost (consider console + controller and you're easily back over $300).

Ultimately I think it comes down to the games. If they come out with some good games then people will buy it. For me, if they came out with a golf game that was really 1:1 I would most likely buy it. And if it was really like golf I'd be buying a replacement controller every month or so as golf is probably the most frustrating thing ever. Well, except for women.

Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 for Wii had "1:1" motion controls. Having played golf it was fairly accurate, however easier to control than real life. Tour 11 will be on PS3 & Wii with "1:1" motion controls and will have 2 new control options for Wii (not sure if they will be on PS3 as the press statement didn't say) which should make it even more accurate.

The Advanced Plus swing difficulty will read rotation and swing angle while the Tour Pro swing mechanic assesses rotation, swing plane and point of contact.




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sergiodaly on 17 March 2010
WilliamWatts said:
sergiodaly said:
good news for me... my sig says it all!

What does it say? I have sigs turned off.

my sig says...
(since E3 2009)when motion control became standard in console gaming i will go back to PC gaming...

i don't like motion control enough for it to be my standard control... i will fully support the ability for us gamers to chose...

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joeorc on 17 March 2010
M.U.G.E.N said:
WilliamWatts said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
WilliamWatts said:

Way better huh? Well does that make it way more fun? The only game where pure accuracy = fun is Gran Turismo, but I fail to see how Move is applicable for this game. The Wii has done pretty well for having computational power far lower than the PS3 so I doubt this is a contest pure technology is going to win if it hasn't already. If you just want a table tennis game you could get a table and a couple of rackets and a ping pong ball and you'll probably have more fun than with the PS3.

Most people didn't buy the PS3 until there were well over 200 titles available to it. So I don't see how 20 titles really ammounts for much in the scheme of things especially when Nintendo already has a mature library of titles. Maybe we'll have to wait until 2012 for the PS3 to catch up? What he says overall is terrible, if you read between the lines at what he is really saying. Hes not going to support Move the way Nintendo supports the Wiimote so you may as well face it and admit that the Move isn't going to Move much until next generation.

 

Now see I don't see such a meaning in between the lines as you in this case. For me, he is just reassuring the current gamers who do not like using motion tech in their games that Move won't be forced upon them. That they will have an option always.

As for the table tennis thing, it's just an example. Ofcourse there are many things if you do for real will be more fun :P What was that supposed to prove? It's like saying, oh why bother with Wii play when you can go do the same thing in real life. It's a game aimed at the casual audience mainly. People come to your house, and you either pull out a table tennis table or just plug in the Move? The more convenient and plausible option is obvious no?

As for the games, I have played the Wii, many times. Have I played Move yet? Nope :D So I won't say it's fun or not fun cuz frankly I have no idea as of now.

As for the number of titles. 20 means they won't stop everything they are doing just to give us Move games. It means they will give us the games the current group wants AS WELL AS games that use or impliment Move. Given the Sony line up this year, I for one am very happy so far. I just 'hope' those games are of good quality.

Options = game with motion controls tacked on. I.E. The move is just another way to point an analogue stick essentially. 20 titles is too few after you remove the unsuitable and the ones you aren't interested in. Out of perhaps 400 games available on the PS3 are you interested in more than 40?

A game like table tennis + accuracy = burying the casual audience under their own ineptness. Most people cannot play table tennis effectively. Fewer will be able to play Move table tennis. Its a hardcore casual game, but when has that ever worked out? The reason why Wii Sports is effective is that anyone can pick it up and play, even people who had never used the controller before.

 

lol wha? So adding more to motion controls is gonna lead to bury the audience cuz they aren't pro at table tennis? I mean really?

The lack of motion sensing on the wii makes players get buried in there boredom because everyone is doing the same thing with skills not needed. See what I did there? Is that what you want 'gaming' to be?

Unless your playmates are pro table tennis I doubt that it will make a difference. If the player is good then he is good.

Go check the official Move thread for the upcoming titles. You will see some good variety in there. There will be something for all. And again, with a PS3, you get MORE than just MOVE. You get all the great games it has to offer as well. So it's not the next Wii. It's the PS3 with just something in addition. And also do you think the casual market will buy 20 -30 games in half an year for a household? Be reasonable here. I know wii owners who still haven't bought more than 5 games since launch because that's enough for them to entertain their guests. As long as the Move has at least 5 games I would enjoy I'll buy it.

Sigh let's face it. You don't like the Move. You haven't tried as everyone else. You have never said anything good about it. You make up one random reason after the other on Move related threads and frankly your making absolute no sense. If you do not like it so much, don't post in these threads. It's getting tiring

he does not even like the Playstation 3, I say just ignore his post's maybe just maybe he will get the hint and..just go away.



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ChrisIsNotSexy on 17 March 2010

Well duh...why would it replace the Dualshock...?It's legendary



Dgc1808 on 17 March 2010

"has the controllers, has the Eye, and a game build in for under $100"

Nice I was wondering if that bundle would include the sub-controller; this pretty much confirms it. Now I'm just hoping they'll have a bundle with just the Two controllers and a game since I already have the PSEye. If they don't have multiple game bundles like they currently do with the dualshock I'll probably just get sets of a controllers, a game and call it a day.



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chaospluto on 17 March 2010

Oh and people think Sony hasn't learned from their expensive past mistakes (i.e. PS3 being $600), then you're wrong.

They want this to be inexpensive and get the most out of it for everyone.



  • 2010 MUST Haves: WKC, Heavy Rain, GoWIII, Fable III, Mass Effect 2, Bayonetta, Darksiders, FFXIII, Alan Wake, No More Heroes 2, Fragile Dreams: FRotM, Trinity: SoZ, BFBC2.
  • Older Need To Buys: Super Mario Bros. Wii, Mario Kart Wii, Deadspace, Demon's Souls, Uncharted 2.

There is definitely more to list that I want, but that's my main focus there.

chaospluto on 17 March 2010
RolStoppable said:
chaospluto said:
Oh and people think Sony hasn't learned from their expensive past mistakes (i.e. PS3 being $600), then you're wrong.

They want this to be inexpensive and get the most out of it for everyone.

Sony released the PSP Go last fall.

Yes, but Sony admitted that was a big mistake.  Hence they learned.



  • 2010 MUST Haves: WKC, Heavy Rain, GoWIII, Fable III, Mass Effect 2, Bayonetta, Darksiders, FFXIII, Alan Wake, No More Heroes 2, Fragile Dreams: FRotM, Trinity: SoZ, BFBC2.
  • Older Need To Buys: Super Mario Bros. Wii, Mario Kart Wii, Deadspace, Demon's Souls, Uncharted 2.

There is definitely more to list that I want, but that's my main focus there.

gekkokamen on 17 March 2010
WilliamWatts said:
gekkokamen said:
@WilliamWatts


not support much? they have third-parties on their side, something the Wii can't say... and they have both hardcore and casual offerings to be compatible with Move. To me that offers quite a wider range than the Wii.

PS3, it only does everything > Wii, it only does casuals

Third parties to tack motion controls onto games? Great. Thats worked out so well for the last 3 years... but glad to see you're keen for some punishment. A wider range of nothing huh? I divide 20 games into 10 hardcore / 10 casual and thats not much. That probably amounts to a couple of decent games for each and not much of a range eh?

PS3 only does everything, but everything it does it does do badly. A Jack of all trades is a master of none.

Internet? Wow... no thanks.

Games? People like Wii more.

Err Online? People wanna pay Microsoft $50 rather than getting it for free on the PS3, wierd? Or is there some good reason?

Pictures? I think they took away the card reader?

Linux? Nope.

Backwards Compatibility? Nope, note the competitors have it. Wii has perfect compatibility.

Blu Ray? Yeah its cool but had to buy the remote for extra? Doesn't come with everything. Ditto for HD cable.

 

 

 

 

As I was gathering the strength to read your reply my eyes read this line...you lost all respect right there, no need to read the rest of your garbage, bye bye!