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roccerfeller said:
PS3 fanboys; you guys really need to cool it down with all this wishful thinking.

Stop being like some Gamecube fanboys last gen. Seriously.



PS3 is in third place. Deal with it. Accept it. Stop trying to justify how it will magically start selling amazing all of a sudden. The ps3 will simply not sell as well as the PS2, or at a similar rate. It cannot. The Wii has sold @ better and faster rates than the PS2. How the hell is the PS3 gonna overtake that?

Sure the slim re-juvenated the PS3's sales, but that has turned out to be more if an equalizer than anything.

Also the PS3 has already had all its big guns released. As far as GoW3? As far as Im concerned, people who want this game have already bought a PS3. The biggest gun the system now has is Gran Turismo 5.

Stop all of this stupid numbers stuff where you wish the ps3 could come out and destroy the competition.

The PS3 probably has the best software lineup, in my eyes, out of all the systems currently on the market, so stop all this stupid wishy wanty stuff, come back to reality, and enjoy the games. At the very least you can be happy GoW 3, Uncharted, Killzone, etc... are all on Sony's system.


PS. GoW3 is my most anticipated game. So dont think im just dissing PS3; Im not, I love the system a lot, one of my fav's ever. Im just dissing the fan boys who have their head so far up Sony's ass they can't see the light of reality anymore.

 

Bingo, I'm a PS3 owner and I can't see it happening.



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Hus said:
Grimes said:

Except by the time the PS3 is $199, you'll probably be able to get a 360 for $99 and a blu-ray player for $60. Blu-ray players will be dvd player cheap within two years. The 360 will be dirt cheap or replaced in two years.

Delusional for sake of ones bad opinion, nice.

The next PS3 cut is likely $100, unless they cut $50 this year.  A cut from 299 to 199 is a very natural one, it coudl happen thsi year.   

Br player with online and 3d sure as hell wont be anywhere near $60 in 2 years time. 

360 will soon come with Natal, which will add costs.  So give up on the $99 360 dream, hell the original xbox never even got near that.  Lowest price it got to was $150. 

 

You can buy a Sony blu-ray player today for $99.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05757439000P?vName=Computers%20&%20Electronics&cName=Blu-ray&DVDPlayers&sName=Blu-Ray&psid=FROOGLE01&sid=IDx20070921x00003a

I see a price cut for the 360 just as likely as for the PS3 since the 360 is profitable and the PS3 is not. You can only include the price for Natal if you include the price for ARC.

 



Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.

HexenLord said:
Metallicube said:
I'm still baffled that everyone seems to just assume the PS3 will last ten years. PS2 even barely made it 10 years and that's the most successful console of all time. PS3 on the other hand is selling far worse than the PS2 did. Remember, it needs to last FIVE years before it can last 10.

Sony can repeat their "10 year plan" for PS3 until they are blue in the face, but the market is what decides the lifespan of a console, not so much the console maker.

The Ps2 only sold so well BECAUSE it was on the market for 10 years, most of which had a huge price drop (that the PS3 will eventually see around its 5 year mark). Even if the next console is released around the PS3s 6-7 year mark, I'm sure Sony will keep the PS3 on shelves much like it has the PS2. It will still continue to sell well although not AS well. 

With the current momentum the PS3 has, 5 years won't be a problem. Its 4th and 5th years will still probably push 10 million units.

How many times do people have to say it before it sticks?  Sony cannot just artificially extend the life of a console.  They can cut it short, but they cannot extend it.

Consumers have control over the life of a product.  If consumers stop buying the PS3, retailers will stop ordering it, Sony will have to stop shipping them, and ultimately stop manufacturing them.

Consumers are not retards who will buy anything they see on shelves.



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Hus said:
Bookmarked for future fun.

No legit reason it wont happen.

Soon enough PS3 will be selling 18/20 million a year, and voila.


I'm wondering when you think this would happen.

@OT

"Ownership of both the PS3 and the Xbox 360 will hit their highest points between 2012 and 2014.

SACHD also anticipates that the global installed base of home consoles will reach over 220 million by the end of the year, but its models indicate that the ownership of current systems will peak in 2011. At that point, the firm believes vendors will "need to introduce new systems in order to maintain industry growth.""

I don't understand this part.



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

Kenny said:

To the analyst: I believe the proper phrase here is, 'you fail'.

This topic calls for a classic!

That is so fitting for this thread.

Win.

Pure win.



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Metallicube said:
I'm still baffled that everyone seems to just assume the PS3 will last ten years. PS2 even barely made it 10 years and that's the most successful console of all time. PS3 on the other hand is selling far worse than the PS2 did. Remember, it needs to last FIVE years before it can last 10.

Sony can repeat their "10 year plan" for PS3 until they are blue in the face, but the market is what decides the lifespan of a console, not so much the console maker.

I'd like to nominate this for most intelligent post of the week !



I don't think they realise that the consumer decides whether a console lives on, not the company. Sony just doesn't realise it because it's never been 2nd or 3rd.
However i do see the PS3 having a lifeline which will be nintendo's next console if it is only as powerful as the ps3 as it will thrive on ports.



 Twilightman on Gametrailers

Given the fact the PS3 is a great Blu Ray player.

Add the fact that I personally know two people who use their PS3's solely as Blu Ray machines.

If the PS3 does achieve 130 mil lifetime sales it may also have the lowest "game" attach rate of any console in living memory due to its fractured appeal !



Legend11 said:
crumas2 said:
I certainly hope the PS3 isn't Sony's primary console after another 3 years. I seriously doubt Nintendo and MS are going to wait a total of 10 years to release new consoles, and I can't buy the hype that the PS3 could still be "leading edge" performance-wise if that happens. Processor/bus/memory/etc advances just don't crawl along that slowly.

For those who say, "Sony wants to keep the PS3 around for 10 years", that doesn't really determine much from a product standpoint. I would love it if my home computer could play the latest games after 10 years, but the only way to come even close to making that happen is to basically replace all the internals with much more advanced components... motherboard, drives, memory, etc. You can't do that with a PS3 and still call it a PS3.

And before someone points out that the PS3 Slim has a "new" motherboard, etc., you need to think about the fact that the changes to the processor, graphics, etc. are slightly upgraded--primarily with power-savings in mind, not redesigns of those components.


I don't think any of them want to bring out a new console any time soon.  Nintendo is raking it in with the cheapest console to produce.  Microsoft is looking at the profits that Nintendo is making in video games and is starting to chase that now.  Sony can't afford to launch a new console considering they're probably just reaching the break even point for hardware.  Add to that the current costs of game development and the additional costs for a newer console and it's doubtful that anyone except some gamers want new consoles.

 

You make a very good point... console manufacturers are going to want to milk as much out of the current generation, particularly considering the red bath Sony and MS have taken.  Naturally, this isn't an issue for Nintendo, as they seem to have been profitable right out of the gate.

I'm guessing that one of the following scenarios might cause a disruption to this approach:

1. Nintendo has been quietly designing an "HD" box and is only waiting for the right time (component cost reduction, HDTV adoption, Blu-Ray adoption, market conditions) to move

2. MS, still floating in cash reserves and still one of the most profitable companies on Earth, decides to swallow more red ink

Three years may not seem like a long time, but the current generation of consoles will definitely start getting long in the tooth, particularly considering how many commoditized parts are used in them, i.e. - memory, support chips, etc.  So from a hardware perspective, at some point in time it will likely be a cost savings to move onto the next generation of components rather than trying to keep living in an out-dated hardware environment.

Also, as long as the processor/graphics keeps a similar API as an abstraction layer, it won't be as expensive as what Sony did with the PS3... in other words, the next generation might be more of an evolution rather than a revolution.

One last factor is PC gaming... if this drives the right components down into the ground, price-wise, it may make it possible for a new generation of consoles to come out at lower price points than what MS and Sony were able to accomplish this gen.

So, while I agree that it might be somewhat expensive to move on in another three years, I still believe it's very possible depending on what strategy the console companies adopt.  Sony is the least likely, but even they may decide that the PS3 is getting a little crufty by then.

 



what are you guys gonna say when the ps3 eventually does reach its 10th birthday? even if it crawls there, so what? it still made it.