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Capital Punishment: For or Against?

For. Let them burn in hell 16 34.78%
 
Against. They could be innocent. 24 52.17%
 
Candy!!! 6 13.04%
 
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We hear about terrible crimes being carried out every day through out the world. The perpetrators of serious crimes need to be punished. Capital punishment should be brought back and it would reduce crime. People would think twice about carrying heinous crimes of serial killing, pre-meditated murder(murder in the first degree), child killing, terrorism, etc. Justice systems vary greatly through out the world- criminals walk free if they have lots of money.

So are you for or against Capital Punishment?

I am totally for it and I believe that it should be brought back. People will think twice about their actions. Prison life sentence is more or less a tax payer funded holiday camp for life. That is not punishment at all. The serious offenders should lose their life. Choke on the end of the rope, lethal injection, electric chair or any other method of capital punishment. Capital punishment is  justice.

Ok we will get the bleeding hearts and the politically correct side of the story claiming how barbaric capital punishment was in the past. Capital punishment is not acceptable in a civilised world.  Defence lawyers will argue that criminals were not fully responsible for their actions they were drunk, on drugs, had an abusive childhood or they have Aspergers syndrome.



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FOR. Only for the worst of criminals. Murders Rapists Arsonists Terrorists etc (Those people that are F@#-&% in the head

Cost.
Money is not an inexhaustible commodity and the government may very well better spend our (limited) resources on the old, the young and the sick etc., rather than on the long term imprisonment of murderers, rapists, etc.

Retribution.
Execution is a very real punishment rather than some form of "rehabilitative" treatment, the criminal is made to suffer in proportion to the offence.

Deterrence.
Does the death penalty deter? It is hard to prove one way or the other because in most retentionist countries the number of people actually executed per year (as compared to those sentenced to death) is usually a very small proportion. It would, however, seem that in those countries (e.g. Singapore) which almost always carry out death sentences, there is far less serious crime.

Britain.
The rates for unlawful killings in Britain have more than doubled since abolition of capital punishment in 1964 from 0.68 per 100,000 of the population to 1 .42 per 100,000. Home Office figures show around unlawful killings 300 in 1964, which rose to 565 in 1994 and 833 in 2004. The figure for homicides in 2007 was 734.



@Football. Actually life imprisonment is cheaper than the death penalty in the USA.

 

Personally I'm against the death penalty for a couple of reasons. The main one is because I do not believe that the state should be allowed to kill it's citizens in cold blood. There is also the fact that in all circumstances innocent people will end up being executed, which is bluntly the state murdering an innocent citizen.

Also the deterrent effect has never had any solid statistical evidence behind it.



Rath said:

@Football. Actually life imprisonment is cheaper than the death penalty in the USA.

 

Personally I'm against the death penalty for a couple of reasons. The main one is because I do not believe that the state should be allowed to kill it's citizens in cold blood. There is also the fact that in all circumstances innocent people will end up being executed, which is bluntly the state murdering an innocent citizen.

Also the deterrent effect has never had any solid statistical evidence behind it.


Cost isn't the issue in England anyway. Its the space, our jails are full. Also i would argue that if someone aged 25 murdered people and was sent to jail it would cost more in terms of food healthcare etc etc than someone who was dropped off a rope. Obviously taking the internal organs which are actually useful from the waste of space.

Also, if there wasn't 100% evidence then people wouldn't be killed. They would be dumped in a jail like they are now. If i was considering commiting a criminal act and i knew that i could be putting my life at risk i wouldn't do it. If i knew that jail was the worst "punishment" then i would do it.



For, but for terrible offenders and repeat offenders. Some people simply won't learn, and heck. Even to some, prison is free room & board with free food! There needs to be more incentive for these people to stop breaking the law.



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The death penalty seems like such a waste...

It would be much better to just use the Australia concept, get all the criminals and put them on a vacant island, build a huge factory and get them all to work there for no charge until they die naturally. I'm pretty sure there's plenty of islands in south east Asia that aernt being used.

(I also understand that Australia was occupied before the British settled)



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Doobie_wop said:
The death penalty seems like such a waste...

It would be much better to just use the Australia concept, get all the criminals and put them on a vacant island, build a huge factory and get them all to work there for no charge until they die naturally. I'm pretty sure there's plenty of islands in south east Asia that aernt being used.

(I also understand that Australia was occupied before the British settled)


Community service is suppose to be working off your crimes!

But what happened if someone killed all your family and friends then was told they were going to another island to work in a factory and die naturally! You would be annoyed!

Especially if the island was in the warm climate of South east Asia!



Or, we could just use the jails to put real offenders in, instead of packing it full of people who do marijuana and other stupid sentences.



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CommonMan said:
Or, we could just use the jails to put real offenders in, instead of packing it full of people who do marijuana and other stupid sentences.

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