Exactly, its fun for people who dont like racing sims and that was their main goal.

Forza FTW!

I've never played the game so I don't know if what he is saying is true or not, and just to be upfront I've got GT5 preordered and will probably never play Forza 3. But this really reeks of someone who wanted to write an article about what went wrong with Forza, and then searched for things to complain about. Rather than doing what the reviewers did, which was playing the game to see what it is, he played the game to pick it apart.

InsideSimRacing :D

what is the legitimity of these "pro-racer" guys to rate the "fun" or the "multiplayer" of a game ? or even the sound ?

they can only rate the physics and, sadly, it is still only 1 "pro-racer" guy opinion at the end

haha...pretty funny.

Wow a great article,well done.Nice and informative.Turn10 turned me off this game talking smack so much.My advice to you would be,if you are an avid car and racing fan wait for GT5. That game has taken like 5 years to be finished and it will sell at least 4 million copies so alot more people will be online.

You know, posting history can tell a lot about a person.  The OP is an admitted huge fan of Gran Turismo and Playstation game series.

/objectivity

/thread

lol realistic physics what????

They aren't even pro-racers. At most they might have some track experience.

Anyone able to find their biography? Google can't find any.

I have to agree completely with the article from the perspective of a hardcore racing fan. Also the comments about the community aspects are quite troubling. It would be good for Turn 10 to front up and say "We designed it this way, and we are sorry you don't like it" or "We're working to fix it, heres a free (large) DLC pack coming up to make ammends to you". I think what this article really proves is that a racing game cannot be made in two years. You can make an arcade game in two years but a simulator would take a lot longer. 

From the perspective of someone who isn't quite so into hardcore racing its hard to say how this would effect them. Do people want realism or surrealism?

I guess this is the value of GT5. Its not because the game is hardcore, its just that they can thread the line between hardcore and casual and not make anyone upset whilst delivering a good experience for both.

Xbox Live Top 20: Week of February 15

1 Modern Warfare 2
2 Halo 3
3 Call of Duty: WaW
4 FIFA 10
5 Call of Duty 4
6 GTA IV
7 Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Demo
8 Aliens Vs Predator Multiplayer Demo
9 BioShock 2
10 Mass Effect 2
11 Left 4 Dead 2
12 Gears of War 2
13 Madden NFL 10
14 Forza Motorsport 3
15 Assassin's Creed II
16 NBA 2K10
17 Halo 3: ODST
18 Borderlands
19 Trials HD
20 NHL 10

Look at the games Forza 3 is played more than and tell me with a serious face that it doesn't have a strong online community. Most people don't even play racers online so to use one specific time and one specific day to try to claim that a game is dying is completely laughable.

The article was clearly written with someone whose either ignorant or has an agenda. Inside Sim racing is probably the harshest yet fairest and most in depth sim racing reviewers. They are far more qualified to review racers than pretty much any other review site out there. For the person who said GT5P is better than Forza 3, well sorry but its not even better than Forza 2.

Since someone else posted their Forza 3 review I won't bother reposting it. What I find most entertaining about this thread is that the majority of people that agree with the article haven't even played Forza 3. I'm guessing waiting 5 plus years for a single game has created a lot of insecurities.