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Mr Khan on 22 February 2010

I've heard that such punishments can be quite effective (in terms of correcting behavior), and would definitely be more cost-effective for petty offenses. But as others have said, the moral concerns are too great. It would unleash powerful public ills in ways that wouldn't be immediately apparent, but would be horirble in the long-term.



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d21lewis on 22 February 2010

I have never been more turned on by a Wikipedia link in my entire life! Now, I'm going to the "public humiliation" porn website!!



nordlead on 22 February 2010
NJ5 said:

On a related note, let me add that medieval times (when humiliation was common) were very different from now. There was no Internet back then, for one thing.

If something like this happened today, you would quickly see online searchable databases where everyone can see every crime anyone ever committed. This record would follow you everywhere in the world for the rest of your life.

It's just too draconian.

 

People can do that anyways.

http://www.criminalsearches.com/summary.aspx?input=name&fn=CURTIS&ln=BROWN&city=&state=NY&zip=

http://www.criminalsearches.com/neighborhood/watch.aspx?addr=&city=syracuse&state=NY&zip=




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NJ5 on 22 February 2010
nordlead said:
NJ5 said:

On a related note, let me add that medieval times (when humiliation was common) were very different from now. There was no Internet back then, for one thing.

If something like this happened today, you would quickly see online searchable databases where everyone can see every crime anyone ever committed. This record would follow you everywhere in the world for the rest of your life.

It's just too draconian.

 

People can do that anyways.

http://www.criminalsearches.com/summary.aspx?input=name&fn=CURTIS&ln=BROWN&city=&state=NY&zip=

http://www.criminalsearches.com/neighborhood/watch.aspx?addr=&city=syracuse&state=NY&zip=

Aren't there any laws against this sort of stuff?

Anyway my point still stands... it would be much more pervasive if public humiliation became the norm.

 



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nordlead on 22 February 2010
NJ5 said:
nordlead said:
NJ5 said:

On a related note, let me add that medieval times (when humiliation was common) were very different from now. There was no Internet back then, for one thing.

If something like this happened today, you would quickly see online searchable databases where everyone can see every crime anyone ever committed. This record would follow you everywhere in the world for the rest of your life.

It's just too draconian.

 

People can do that anyways.

http://www.criminalsearches.com/summary.aspx?input=name&fn=CURTIS&ln=BROWN&city=&state=NY&zip=

http://www.criminalsearches.com/neighborhood/watch.aspx?addr=&city=syracuse&state=NY&zip=

Aren't there any laws against this sort of stuff?

Anyway my point still stands... it would be much more pervasive if public humiliation became the norm.

no, in fact the public sex offenders database is there so you can protect your own children. In NY sex offenders must register - http://criminaljustice.state.ny.us/nsor/ - and it is common to see fliers sent around the neighborhoods if someone moves into the area. People want to know if they are living near criminals and they have every right to know.

However, NY state doesn't make all offenses publicly available, and if you want other information you'd have to browse old news stories or public databases like the one I originally linked.

Also, this cracked me up when I was browsing the site - "Additionally, the Sex Offender Registration Act (SORA) does not allow a sex offender to work on an ice-cream truck." (it was from the section on if you have to employ them, but I thought it was funny they pointed out ice-cream trucks explicitly)




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blaydcor on 22 February 2010
oldschoolfool said:
It wouldn't work on me. I don't feel shame.


Haha, people like you crack me up.



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NJ5 on 22 February 2010
nordlead said:

no, in fact the public sex offenders database is there so you can protect your own children. In NY sex offenders must register - http://criminaljustice.state.ny.us/nsor/ - and it is common to see fliers sent around the neighborhoods if someone moves into the area. People want to know if they are living near criminals and they have every right to know.

However, NY state doesn't make all offenses publicly available, and if you want other information you'd have to browse old news stories or public databases like the one I originally linked.

Also, this cracked me up when I was browsing the site - "Additionally, the Sex Offender Registration Act (SORA) does not allow a sex offender to work on an ice-cream truck." (it was from the section on if you have to employ them, but I thought it was funny they pointed out ice-cream trucks explicitly)

Lol, that IS funny.

Anyway I was thinking more about things like small theft and mild crimes like that, not things like rape... I wouldn't lift a finger to protect a rapist's right to privacy, as IMO the vast majority of rapists are beyond repair.

 



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CommonMan on 22 February 2010

I'm pretty sure you could find my mugshot from my DWI if you really wanted to. Bring back the stocks! I want to throw rotten lettuce at someone!



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Lord Flashheart on 22 February 2010
oldschoolfool said:
It wouldn't work on me. I don't feel shame.

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O-D-C on 22 February 2010

I like this idea...