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Sorry 200k is FAR too different not to adjust back... infact it lowers my perception and 'trust' in this sites numbers if they aren't adjusted back.

I don't see what the problem is with adjusting numbers to what NPD release publically... they don't like it, but hey who cares - it's not anything illegal the numbers are public now so people can do with them what they choose... it would be the same if this site just kept track of NPD numbers and just had all of these graphs built around those public numbers... at least keep the public numbers as accurate as possible.



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i dont see why this time is any different



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Well, I give ioi credit for having the courage to stick with his convictions and leave the 360 numbers alone. At the same time, the fact that both 360 hardware AND software appear to be significantly overtracked (according to NPD) is definitely a bit disturbing. I'm certainly willing to give VGChartz the benefit of the doubt for now... with a bit of a critical eye. 40% higher than NPD is a lot different than 10-15%, after all.

If the November NPD data shows a similar pattern, then I'll push much harder for revising the data. Until then, ioi's word is good enough for me.



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OriGin said:
I don't see what the problem is with adjusting numbers to what NPD release publically... 


Because ioi doesn't think they're right. There's nothing more to it than that.




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rocketpig said:

Because ioi doesn't think they're right. There's nothing more to it than that.


This site is far more credible than any other because people know where this figures come from. NPD is a big profesional tracking institution and they are always right in such situations. With all respect to every single member of the crew and especially to ioi but you just can't pretend as you are right.

Vgchartz numbers were very close generally. Why destroy it all by keeping some wrong figures? Even if ioi is right and NPD undertracked MS on purpose (what I really doubt because they are paid by MS after all) for site's sake he should adjust the numbers. Not a big deal.



Tetsuo Shima said:
rocketpig said:

Because ioi doesn't think they're right. There's nothing more to it than that.


This site is far more credible than any other because people know where this figures come from. NPD is a big profesional tracking institution and they are always right in such situations. With all respect to every single member of the crew and especially to ioi but you just can't pretend as you are right.

Vgchartz numbers were very close generally. Why destroy it all by keeping some wrong figures? Even if ioi is right and NPD undertracked MS on purpose (what I really doubt because they are paid by MS after all) for site's sake he should adjust the numbers. Not a big deal.


Except when Microsofts quartly shipments came off... they were wrong.  Way wrong... and VGchartz was closer to right before they adjusted for NPD. 

Why would you adjust for NPD for 360 and DS when NPD steered you wrong the last time you used them to adjust 360 and DS?

It's likely NPD's tracking math is off, but they arn't going to screw with it until after X-mas because X-mas is the most important time of year, and when changeing your math you can make it better, or worse... you don't know until you get more data.  They can't afford to correct their math on the DS or 360 to be more correct until after next year.  Ioi is betting that right now his statistical formula is better then theirs... since it did perform better the last time for DS and 360.

Or atleast that's what i think he's saying.



Kasz216 said:

Why would you adjust for NPD for 360 and DS when NPD steered you wrong the last time you used them to adjust 360 and DS?


I've already answered your question - for site's sake. NPD has a right to be wrong.



Tetsuo Shima said:
Kasz216 said:

Why would you adjust for NPD for 360 and DS when NPD steered you wrong the last time you used them to adjust 360 and DS?


I've already answered your question - for site's sake. NPD has a right to be wrong.


So... your arguement is... even if they're wrong, and Ioi is right... according to the quartley released data NPD is right? 

That's basically what your saying...

Riiiight.  It's logic like that, that creates fanboys.



FishyJoe said:
PS3Blog has summarized the PS3 results better than I ever could.

http://www.ps3blog.net/2007/11/15/october-npd-time/

I shouldn't have clicked that link. It's past 2AM and I'm laughing my ass off.

 



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