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arcane_chaos on 17 February 2010

I was going to make a thread on this......oh well, all I can say is that it's in the realm of possibility!



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c0rd on 17 February 2010
freebs2 said:
c0rd said:

Hm, I highly doubt that'd happen.

First, consider that the HD consoles are slightly boosted by multiple owners (PS3 + 360). Even if this is only 3% of the group, that's over a million consoles.

Second, consider how much money the HD consoles lost combined to compete with the Wii. The 360 lost about 2 billion (?), the PS3 lost somewhere in the 4-6 billion range. Combined that's like 6-8 billion? Can MS or Sony afford losses that huge?

Third, MS does not have access to all of Sony's audience, and vice versa. Unless Sony manages to grab Fable, Halo, and Gears on their systems, or MS grabs Gran Turismo, God of War and others, not everyone will purchase the remaining competitor. Besides, if Sony or MS drops out and their IP's go third party, there's a chance they will end up on Nintendo's consoles, making it even more impossible...

Finally, we don't yet even know if the HD consoles will finish ahead of the Wii.

You are right but I think that most of that 6-8billion were lost because of the competiton between sony and microsoft not against nintendo.

For example Sony spent at first a lot of money developing the cell-processor trying to compete against X360 in the graphical department, not against Wii, then sony had to lose money underselling ps3 because of 360's lower price.

 

True, some of the R&D costs would overlap in the losses.

Still, the losses from the price cut wars are relevant. Nobody cares that the PS3 cut its price to fight off Microsoft's 360, they only care about the price itself (now $299!). If there was no competition and fewer price cuts, the Wii would have easily overtaken the HD consoles.



maximus22 on 17 February 2010

I'm optimistic that MS will win the 13th gen!



Moren on 17 February 2010

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jdelanoy on 17 February 2010

I don't think that MS will win next gen, but I have no idea who will.

Nintendo obviously has a crazy amount of momentum, but they have failed to capture the hardcore market at all. Whether that is a bad thing is a matter of debate. The point is, if either MS or Sony (with the Xbox 720/PS4) manages to get the appeal that the Wii has now, and at the same time, keep their hardcore base happy, they will pwn all comers.

Sony, to me, is the biggest enigma. They don't have a history of repeating mistakes. Just look at Betamax vs Blu-ray. With Betamax, they had a "build it and they will come" mentality, and they spurned technological alliances. JVC et al. did not, and they won easily.
Blu-ray came on the scene, and Sony did everything that they really needed to do, and laid a huge wager on the PS3, and won. That they did so at the cost of their lead in gaming console sales is really not the point. The point is, Sony is willing to take risks, and they do have a history of learning from their mistakes. Also, MS forced Sony to release the PS3 a year earlier than they wanted to. Imagine if the PS3 had launched in December 2007, at 450US$.



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MontanaHatchet on 17 February 2010

So, did anyone point out yet that Nintendo is beating Microsoft even if we don't count Japanese sales? Because that blows a hole in your entire argument.



 

 

kunaixhaku on 17 February 2010

they created their base this gen, i am seeing a takeover next gen



Siko1989 on 18 February 2010
maximus22 said:
I'm optimistic that MS will win the 13th gen!

are you saying in the next 25 - 30 years?




maximus22 on 18 February 2010
Siko1989 said:
maximus22 said:
I'm optimistic that MS will win the 13th gen!

are you saying in the next 25 - 30 years?

Yeah around 30 years!



Kenoid on 18 February 2010

Actually if you don't know, Microsoft is a software giant company, not a hardware company.
So yes, microsoft may not be able to see any of its consoles selling better than others anytime soon, but rather later.



                                  

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