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    Annoying Dell ad

    in Website Topics on 30 July 2008

    agree. its VERY annoying...

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    PS3 - $11 Billion Loss since 2005

    in Sales Discussion on 23 June 2008

    Thanks Squilliam. I don't mind personal attacks and/or calling me a fanboy.It comes with the forums I suppose.I am a numbers geek and don't care who is losing or making money. As long as the math is correct and the assumptions are reasonable, I'm happy.I still would like some answers from some of the people though.When the Jun 2008 numbers come out, I will use the same assumptions and see how...

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    PS3 - $11 Billion Loss since 2005

    in Sales Discussion on 23 June 2008

    @ kn and other knowledgeable Sony people (fanboys included)The above post makes some sense if people claim that Sony lost $4B on the PS3 (software and hardware).However, for 2006, it doesn't make too much sense for the PS3 to loss ONLY 91 million dollars. I do suspect that the PS2 at that time was making more money on software than the $4 I used.Though $4 is probably what it is for the year end...

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    PS3 - $11 Billion Loss since 2005

    in Sales Discussion on 23 June 2008

    @kn and other Sony knowledgeable people.If I use $75 loss per PSP hardware, then Sony lost a total of approx. US$2.65 Billion Dollars on PSP hardware - does this make sense?If so, still using $10 and $4 for PS2 hardware and software, and $4 for PSP software,the results for PS3 hardware and software TOTAL loss is:end Mar 2006 - 91 Million Lossend Mar 2007 - 2.47 Billion Lossend Mar 2008 - 1.25...

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    PS3 - $11 Billion Loss since 2005

    in Sales Discussion on 22 June 2008

    @knUnderstood. I will try to look up PSP losses.But I think there are other people in the forums that know more about this.I can do the $75 LOSS per unit then.I can still assume either $4 or $10 for PSP software. Maybe $4 is more realistic than $10.I will go and do the analysis @ $75 loss per hardware, which is fairly substantial. :)cheers....

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    PS3 - $11 Billion Loss since 2005

    in Sales Discussion on 22 June 2008

    Rock_on_2008 said:Thread op. You just made the losses up to make the PS3 look really bad. You blame all the losses on the PS3. You are an idiot. I bet you have no understanding of interpreting financial statements.   @Rock_on_2008 Like I mentioned, I don't mind you getting all passionate, as it is very nice to have it in the forums. Can I ask you about your assumptions...

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    PS3 - $11 Billion Loss since 2005

    in Sales Discussion on 22 June 2008

    I find this quite entertaining and amusing. I know numbers are quite dry.But please, for discussion's sake - I just hope people who respond can actually give some numbers (with calculations) to back up their posts.But of course, this will never happen. Haha.I would be happy to do it for you guys though.When the Q1 ending Jun 2008 Sony numbers arrive, I will do the exact same analysis....

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    PS3 - $11 Billion Loss since 2005

    in Sales Discussion on 22 June 2008

    FYI before someone mentions it.The reason I chose Sony financials is because they seem to be the most transparent.They have PS2, PSP, PS3, hardware and software unit totals. Very nice to analyse.I read the Nintendo ones but couldn't find actual software / hardware unit sales.I didn't even touch Microsoft, because as other people have pointed out, they also lump in all kinds of sem-unrelated...

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    PS3 - $11 Billion Loss since 2005

    in Sales Discussion on 22 June 2008

    @ ChichiriMuyoIf you have other assumptions, you are more than welcome. I never claimed what you are saying.If PSP is LOSING money, then it's fine, you can subtract that from the PS3 losses. I just thought that PSP is making money. If that is not the case, then I have no objections.Please see my previous post directed to Rock On.I agree with you that if PSP lost $1Billion as you say, then...

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    PS3 - $11 Billion Loss since 2005

    in Sales Discussion on 22 June 2008

    @ Rock_onIts called Scenario Analysis - that is why I don't really care what numbers you use in the assumptions as long as it is consistent.Based on your numbers - PS3 lost $4 Billion dollars. Again, if that is true, then this is the math:FY end Mar 2008 = (1.245 Billion) LossFY end Mar 2007 = (1.969 Billion) LossFY end Mar 2006 (first mention of PS3 in the financial statements) = 75 Million...

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    PS3 - $11 Billion Loss since 2005

    in Sales Discussion on 22 June 2008

    @ rasoneSources are Sony financial reports reported to the public. Available at their own website.Please see previous post for the link....

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    PS3 - $11 Billion Loss since 2005

    in Sales Discussion on 22 June 2008

    @ |_emmiwinksIf you are saying that the PS2 makes more than $15 per unit, that is OK. I have no objection. Just know that if PS2 hardware makes more than $15 per unit, then YOU are saying that the PS3 lost even more money.You can't have it both ways -- that is PS2 makes a LOT of MONEY and PS3 didn't lose that much money.That is the original thesis of the post. If you assume ps2 is wildly...

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    PS3 - $11 Billion Loss since 2005

    in Sales Discussion on 22 June 2008

    @ Jia JiaI think you may be the one without any financial or business analytical skills.Please think before you post.@Rock_on Let me see you calculate based on Sony numbers - here is the link:game division numbers are always on page 4 or page 5 of the pdf reportshttp://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/index.html...

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    PS3 - $11 Billion Loss since 2005

    in Sales Discussion on 22 June 2008

    Note: LOSS FIGURES for SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE.I just lumped it in for both for now.To repeat: I can't change the reported operating income for the GAMES division - it is still (US$1.245 Billion) - LOSS for FY ending Mar 2008@DMeisterJ @TWRoOIf we change the following assumptions for FY ending Mar 2008 to:PS2 software - $4 per unitPS2 hardware - $10 per unitPSP software - $4 per unitPSP hardware...

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    PS3 - $11 Billion Loss since 2005

    in Sales Discussion on 22 June 2008

    To All:All figures are taken from Sony financial reports. Operating Income/Loss and Units Sold.For example:FY ending Mar 2008PS2 sold = 13.73 millionPSP sold = 13.89 millionPS3 sold = 9.24 millionPS2 software = 154 millionPSP software = 55.5 millionPS3 software = 57.9 millionFY ending Mar 2007PS2 sold = 14.2 millionPSP sold = 8.36 millionPS3 sold = 5.5 millionPS2 software = 193 millionPSP...

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    PS3 - $11 Billion Loss since 2005

    in Sales Discussion on 22 June 2008

    PS3 analysis - based on 3 years ending Mar 31, 2008 - from Sony reported figures. Based on the following Assumptions: PS2 Hardware - Sony makes $15 per unit, after all related costs, including marketing, R&D, etc. PS2 Software - Sony makes $10 per unit, after all related costs PSP Hardware - Sony makes $10 per unit, after all related costs PSP Software - Sony makes $10 per unit, after...

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    The Official October NPD thread (data should be out momentarily)

    in Sales Discussion on 15 November 2007

    ioi, Does Vgcharts have some comparison data to what NPD has reported, compared to actual manufacturer shipped data - on a quarterly or even yearly basis - even just a simple comparison like:NPD monthly reported data - compare to - manufacturer yearly or monthly "shipped" dataSince I'm new at this - is NPD statistically accurate? That is, within a certain tolerable range compared to actual...

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    The Official October NPD thread (data should be out momentarily)

    in Sales Discussion on 15 November 2007

    I'm new at this - but I suppose the best way to re-check the numbers is indeed by using the actual manufacturer shipped data (to retailers) - over the course of the past years.For example, if a manufacturer made 1000 units for the past 3 years - chances are the sales to actual end users will be around 1000 units per year. Because like many people have said, and from a business stand point -...

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    The Official October NPD thread (data should be out momentarily)

    in Sales Discussion on 15 November 2007

    People can correct me on this:From my understanding NPD does not include Walmart, Costco and other retailers - is this correct? If so, which retailers do they track?Because these retailers are BIG retailers, which I assume can move more product - compared to smaller retailers.If they do not track these retailers, do they extrapolate and estimate their sales?If not, then by definition, NPD would...

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