MS: 1st party Xbox games will be cross-gen for "next year, two years"

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goopy20 said:

Pemalite said:

CryEngine 3.0 came out in 2009, so obviously it couldn't be used for Crysis in 2007... Crysis 2007 was demanding enough with it's forward renderer.
Helps that I always mentioned CryEngine and not Crysis.

CryEngine 3.0 first started being used with Crysis 2 and again had Partial Ray marching which is a form of Ray Tracing, already provided the evidence for that.

The RT in Battlefield 5 isn't the same as older Ray Tracing methods, Ray Tracing is an umbrella of techniques, not just a singular construct remember.

The point is and I have provided the evidence, Ray Tracing didn't just happen overnight, it's been a progressive implementation over the decades... As hardware increases in capability, then developers were more inclined to implement different, superior and oft-more demanding variants of Ray Tracing.

Even next-gen isn't going to be fully Ray Traced, despite the inclusion of Ray Tracing cores, we will still be leveraging rasterization primarily, we are probably still a couple of console generations from full ray tracing in real time in games.

It would be no different than Nintendo saying they will support the 3DS for years to come after the Switch has released...

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/04/kimishima_says_nintendo_has_plans_for_the_3ds_in_2019_and_beyond

Didn't hold the Switch back, we still got Links Awakening. (Granted they were transitioning from the WiiU as well.)

Pretty much. If we look at how we transitioned from the 7th to the 8th gen, the bulk of big AAA multiplats didn't just get "ported and enhanced" from the Xbox 360 and dropped onto the Xbox One.
Rather, developers generally took the PC version and *still* downgraded those games for Xbox One. - I.E. Frostbite powered titles.

I would envisage the same would occur next gen as the precedent for that kind of transition is already there for Multiplats... And considering Microsoft drops all it's games on PC, it's relatively simple for them to upgrade titles for newer console hardware.

This would all be true if MS targeted super high-end gaming pc's and then scale them down for the next gen consoles. With current gen that was easy since the GTX660 was already pretty dated when the ps4/Xone launched and the Jaguar cpu was terrible compared to the average pc cpu's. This time around they are talking about SSD, a zen 2 cpu and a 12Tflops gpu, which is comparable to a $1000 RTX2080. Truth is that 99% of the pc gamers don't have anything close to those kind of specs when they launch, and it can take years before they become main stream on pc. 

So if MS's goal is to reach as broad an audience as possible, would they really take full advantage of things like Ray Tracing when only a fraction of the pc gamers have a gpu that supports it? Normally consoles sort of force pc gamers to upgrade if they want to keep playing the latest blockbusters titles in decent settings. But for better or worse, MS is flipping the switch next gen. They're not forcing pc gamers to upgrade or Xone gamers to migrate, they'll just make their games so that, no matter the platform, you're still getting the exact same game and a "plus-plus-plus" version on SeriesX. That's not necessarily a bad thing. For a casual gamer who doesn't care about graphics and just wants to play Halo Infinite it's probably great. But for those who do care, and want to see true next gen experiences not possible on current gen, it does kinda suck.   

After being hit with logic in more then a few fronts, your newest argument hinges on the assumption that their PC targeted specs are nothing special. Really...

Im sorry you feel you have to compensate for any insecurities that PS5 is less powerful. Can’t win em all...but hey at least Sony has a solid 1st party studio portfolio :) But you can’t win this with cheap smoke screens and fake concern. 

Xbox has the power advantage and if you actually cared to do homework, you’d know Ms is optimizing each hardware their games will be on. Nm you keep ignoring that 90% of games (3rd party) will have some edge over PS5 versions)

https://youtu.be/OHhaUGxt3N8

Great vid debunking these lies by a more then a little bias agenda being pushed by people like you. 3:40 min mark. But I guess this will be the PS fan agenda going forward? Instead of accepting your console isn’t the most powerful you tell yourself “it’s ok because Xbox is gimping their own exclusives”. Lol for a bunch of winners your confidence requires quite a lot of bended truths to hold onto it. 

Last edited by sales2099 - on 12 February 2020