yvanjean said:
| goopy20 said:
With these next gen consoles it will be different as I'm sure not all games will be targeting native 4k and 60fps. Instead, we will probably see 1080p (or 1440p) and a locked 30fps in most cases. If those games also will have to run on Xone, it will simply limit the developers ambition and scope for those games. Of course Sony wants everyone to move on the ps5, but what's wrong with that? IMO the first wave of cross gen titles always kinda suck compared to the games that take a full leap to the next gen. GTA5 might be an exception here and is still be an amazing game, but it sure is a shame that they didn't release a GTA game this gen that was build from the ground up around current gen hardware. But at least GTA6 will likely skip current gen consoles.
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I don't know where you guys are getting your information but game development is done on X86 infrastructure and are initially built on some of the best high end PC with top of the line specs. The developers then scale back some of the graphic and cap performance in order to have the game run on console specs and maximize what can be achieve with the console hardware limitation. The game built from the grounds up for a specific consoles can benefit from some minor improvement because the console limitation were always considered during development but there a limit on how much you can push the hardware. Just like Microsoft "secret sauce" never really pan out on the OG Xbox. At the end of day you limited by GPU, CPU and Rams.
Well there many scenario that I can think of why it's wrong to force someone to move to next gen:
1. Imagine someone just upgrade to PS4 Pro or Xbox One X, they just made an investment and don't want to purchase a new console right away.
2. You could simply can't afford to make the switch and will be left out. You could not have the money or be younger and parent won't purchase a new console.
3. What if all you have in your house is a bunch of 1080P TV and you don't have any TV or Screen that can take advantage of the next gen consoles.
4. Microsoft is talking about forward compatible games VS Sony's Cross Gen play. If you were to buy Halo on Microsoft consoles, you now own it on all the consoles Vs Sony's Cross gen play that will allow PS4 and PS5 to play online together. But, lets say you bought Last of Us 2 on PS4, you would have to purchase the PS5 version when Sony release the new consoles. (Lot's of rumors so let's just hope that Sony is forced to match Microsoft forward compatible)
At the end of the day it's better to simply have more option, it's also better to wait a few years before committing to a new consoles, you will get more exclusives & can expect price drop on older games and new consoles. Microsoft solution is actually very consumer friendly. Microsoft unlike Sony as a huge presence on PC, launch their Xcloud service and benefit from subscription service like Xbox live and Gamepass. They benefits regardless where you play. Sony on the other made huge financial investment on the PS5 and doesn't have all of the other source of revenues like Microsoft. During transition consumers will stop or have less incentive to buying games and console for PS4 because they know that there better version on PS5 and because of the smaller PS5 install base, it's harder to recoup the invest made to make PS5 exclusive. Slow transition for Sony would be very bad, they lost Billions of dollar on the start of PS3 and they surely don't want history to repeat itself. Unfortunately for Sony the competition is stronger this time around and doesn't play by their rules.
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I agree that it sucks if you just bought a XB1X or ps4 pro, but nobody can force anyone to buy a next gen console. If you can't afford it, then just wait a few years till the prices drop. But there are plenty of people who can't wait to give MS or Sony their money and buy a next gen console to play next gen games. And no, next gen games don't mean the exact same games we are playing now but just in a higher resolution and fps. I want to see more complex level design, better ai, physics and a boost in overall graphical fidelity with shiny raytracing on top. With current gen they couldn't really deliver on their promise because of the crappy jaguar cpu, but the specs of these next gen consoles are pretty damn impressive. Not saying this will be possible on next gen consoles but it sure as hell will not, if it had to run on 10 year old consoles as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecerIIClbMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnuWG2I2QCY
Last edited by goopy20 - on 13 January 2020
