| Lonely_Dolphin said: You were claiming people complain about TLJ for political reasons even after giving explicitly critical reasons and looking down on them for it. Now here you are, complaining about TROS for political reasons. "Do I as I say but not as I do." I'd still like to know why you believe representation is so important as if it can cause change. You are even aware that the scene was removed in territories where oppression for women/lgbt/etc. is actually real, meaning supported by the majority pop and the government. It hasn't done anything, naturally as representation is not even allowed until the oppression has ended. Companies don't care about causes more than money so they'll only push them where it's safe as it's free easy brownie points. Representation can only be the result of change, not the start of it, and change requires risk and sacrifice, as those in power generally don't give a shit about intangibles like words and movies. |
Pretty sure I was complaining about hypocrisy on the part of the filmmakers that I observed as an individual, not trying to organize a political boycott movement or anything like that.
Yeah, there are many reasons why I dislike The Rise of Skywalker: some of them are aesthetic and some of them are political. That isn't the same thing as organizing a movement to try and prevent everyone else who might like this film from seeing it by getting anything comparable cancelled in the production stages and the leading people (okay mostly just the women specifically) associated with it fired and socially cancelled. Just because I don't like this movie doesn't mean you can't. It's the participation in cancel culture that I don't like about the #StarWarsFans.
I mean aren't these conservative people the same ones who otherwise go around complaining about liberal censorship of free speech all the time? Live by your own standards! You can dislike something without trying to actively prohibit me from seeing it.
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Concerning the whole representation issue you raise, I don't know. I mean you could go all the way back to the early 1930s and find Western movies like Madchen in Uniform, for example, providing quite positive and at the time legitimately groundbreaking representation for lesbians in the popular, relatively new medium of film. It's potential to change public opinion was taken seriously enough by the subsequent Third Reich that they first censored it and then banned it outright and ordered all copies destroyed (most of which, in fact, were). If film or other artistic mediums have no potential to change the world, then why do repressive governments, as in this example, so often see them as threats of a magnitude that merits prohibition in the first place?
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