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JWeinCom on 09 January 2020
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zorg1000 said:
JWeinCom said:

Like I said, either sketchy or not updated often enough.  If they're using Famitsu, it's the latter.  They have Luigi's Mansion at about 300K where it's over 500 in the most recent Famitsu.  That's a few weeks, which is kind of a big deal when your examples are using really recent games.  

You were fine bringing up Link's Awakening vs Link Between Worlds when the latter is significantly better, but then complain about bringing up Mario Party or Smash?  That's trying to have it both ways.  I don't know enough about Japan to judge how nostalgic they are, but a lot of remakes have seemed to do well there.  A lot of times a long break is what a tired out series needs to get out of a rut.  

I dont see how it's both ways, Links Awakening vs Between Worlds are going to be pretty similar in the end. One being a remake of a 20+ year old game and the other a direct sequel of a 20+ year old game. 

But again this is missing the point, in the West you can expect almost any new entry to do significantly better on Switch than they did on 3DS simply because Switch is a mainstream success while 3DS was a moderate success in these regions.

This does not apply to Japan where 3DS is the 3rd highest selling system of all time so games were not held back by the platform. Sone games do better, some do worse and many do similar. It all depends on the individual game.

Whether or not this game reverses the decline is irrelevant to the what I was talking about, this game is going to sell a fraction of what NSMBU did.

I didn't comment on what you said about NSMBU.  I commented on when you said this game would be lucky to sell 250k.  That's a statement that can stand on its own.

Link Between Worlds is simply a better game.  Higher metacritic average, higher user score, more liked by the community is etc.  I have no idea why we should expect similar sales from them just because they're both somehow liked to older games when one is a lot better.  If Smash is disqualified because Ultimate is a significantly better game, then Link Between World's can't count because that's a significantly better game.  

Aside from Fire Emblem, and possibly DK and Yoshi depending on legs, Switch is coming out ahead with every other comparison that I can think of by at least about 100K (You can add Mario Tennis to that list, Octopath Traveller which is outselling either Bravely game) , even in cases like Kirby where the game is not significantly better. It could all just be due to other factors, but when it keeps happening, it seems likely that the Switch is the common denominator.

At any rate, I probably don't feel like arguing the point any further.  I'll just make a mental note to bump this thread around May or June so one of us will have to eat crow.