| Biggerboat1 said: Are you saying Donald Trump represents America in the most literal sense - i.e. he was voted in as President? If you mean it in a more general sense, we know he lost the popular vote so you could say Hillary would have been a more accurate representation of the country... Are you also saying that any legitimate takedown of a high ranking government figure is bad for democracy? Surely that shows that democracy has the ability to police itself and weed out it's corrupt parts? I guess I just don't agree with your premise that Trump losing equates to democracy or the US losing... |
Both literally and figuratively. Trump is an example of what democracy has to offer ...
Impeachment is also a 'political' process, not a 'legal' process so calling it a takedown is a bit much ...
If democracies can't get people to trust in their own nation's institutions in spite of the fact that people like Trump do get elected then it is a system of governance that becomes unsustainable ...
What does America mean to the rest of the world if it constantly keeps selling the idea of democracy to other nations but they themselves fail to follow it ? Why should the other nations adopt democracy when it is clearly a failure that didn't do what it was designed for when the other world power is showing another path to governance where their own version of 'socialism' is proving to be more stable and potentially more effective ?
| JRPGfan said: Thats the most absurbly stupid arguement against a impeachment I think is possible fatslob. |
I'm not fearmongering about naive version of communism since it mostly leads to ruin but rather the middle kingdom's managed version of communism which could lead to the most powerful state in the not too distant future ...
Yes the president shouldn't be above the law but that doesn't give the opposition in congress to be above democracy because a seething desire to put their political opponent in prison through illegitimate ways means that their no better than the police state at the other side of the world ...
Getting rid of Trump means also getting rid of a feature like 'democracy' because at the end of the day what's preventing the public from voting people like him into power ? Trump getting defeated means liberal democracy meets a symbolic defeat in the world ...
| RolStoppable said: That reads like a variation of the reasoning to put Hitler in power in the 1930s. |
Looking back, Hitler didn't necessarily get everything wrong because some of the ideas he put into practice are now in the hands of a geopolitical rival who has potential to become the next superpower ...
The middle kingdom could ultimately validate quite a bit of Hitler's thinking which means he had the right concept all along. If western world want to be taken over by idiocy then the middle kingdom no matter how socially oppressive they are means that they are the only sane civilization left ...
