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fatslob-:O said:
Machiavellian said:

Trump going down has more to do with him being the complete moron then anything else you or John can think up.  We are here today because of how incompetent this whole Ukraine situation was handled by Trump and his administration.  This whole narrative, of socialist this, liberal that is just another way to deflect from an obvious idiotic handling of another situation that continue to baffle me on why people consider this moron capable of anything more than screwing shit up as he has shone throughout his life.

Oh well keep looking for ways to move the blame to everyone else besides the one person who got us here.

Don't you get it ? It's not about who to blame ... 

It's about what Trump represents and it's that he represents America with all of it's idiosyncrasies and beliefs too. If Trump loses then America loses as well because it's own people doubt the very institutions behind their systems thus potentially undoing their project to democratize the whole world ... 

Would you rather see America keep losing in the world if it means you wanting to see Trump losing so badly ? America facing defeat behind the very foundations they've built upon the world so far means victory for the communist middle kingdom regime! 

Thats the most absurbly stupid arguement against a impeachment I think is possible fatslob.
The fearmongering about communist is overblown for one thing, and two even the president shouldnt be above the law.

Trump keeps danceing around our the edges and doing shady things he knows he shouldnt because he believes hes above the law.
Remember the remark about him being able to walk down a street and shoot someone and no one would care? people love him so much.

Your proveing his point.