Official 2020 US Election: Democratic Party Discussion

[uran10]

Moren said:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ne8ayk/tulsi-gabbard-abortion-supreme-court-case-june-medical-services-v-gee-amicus-brief

A true progressive and a woman of the people. How dare we slander someone with such integrity and class?

@uran10

3 things here since you decided to tag me.

1) My first choice is Bernie

2) Before I even get to the article I'm going to point out the most obvious fallacy in what you posted. Let me Paraphrase what you just said. "I don't like a position that this candidate has, so its fine for me and others to lie and slander her since I don't think she has integrity and class". I'll spell this out for you, It is never fine to lie and slander candidates, it is never right to smear candidates. I have no problems with legit criticism, but again you throw around smears about Tulsi, don't back them up with any hard proof because the hard proof doesn't exist. I said it once, I'll say it again Hillary did the same thing now she's getting sued.

3) I didn't read the article, but you know who did? My Girlfriend and my god did she go off on a rant in our chat about this and I'll start by saying, she agrees with Tulsi on this. I'll point out Tulsi stance is against late term abortions unless its for the woman's health, and my GF agrees with that. She also agrees that getting an abortion is a sad thing and shouldn't be the go to but the option should be there since things happen. She pointed out all of the other preventative methods that exists to prevent pregnancy in the first place and that abortion shouldn't be the first thing on the mind after the act has occurred. There's multiple options such as plan B etc, that should be done. Keep in mind she's not arguing that abortion shouldn't be legal and shouldn't be done, she's pointing out that it shouldn't be done in high numbers simply because there are other preventative methods out there and that its a last resort if its caught late etc. Especially considering some health risk she went on to say how she'd understand if its like once or twice but more than that is questionably unless its health related. 

As for me I didn't read the article, but I've seen Tulsi explain her stance on abortion multiple times and nothing she's said has made me go "omg what a bad position". From what she's said before, its only Late term she's somewhat against and that's cause its somewhat dangerous at that point and should really only be done if it relates to the mother's health. Abortions before that are fine and I don't see how that is a wrong stance. I personally think abortion is a last resort somewhat dependent on health, or if the mother feels that she'd be able to or not. If she wants an abortion she should be able to get it, but I think Late term abortions outside of health emergencies are a bit much and they can be somewhat dangerous. If it can be done safely then sure but otherwise... well it's still up to the woman but she'll be the one dealing with those heavier consequences.