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JRPGfan on 29 November 2019
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VAMatt said:
Pemalite said:

The flipside to that is there is a potential need to "lock" customers into their ecosystem, it's an easier task to ask people to migrate to a newer console if they already support all your subscription based services.

It should be interesting either way.

This is certainly correct.  But, Sony hasn't pushed their subscription services particularly aggressively.  I will say though that it seems they may be ramping that up a bit now, with more attractive pricing.  

I actually think this would be a really good argument for MS to drop the price of XB to something super low, and throw in a one month free, or maybe 6 month discounted Gamepass subscription.  That service is very attractive, and MS is clearly trying to push it.  If they sold XB1SAD for $99 or something, they could probably get a few million more people subscribed to the service, and they would be more likely to stick with MS next gen.  They might even be able to pull it off right now with the $149 deal they're running right now in the US, if they threw some big marketing money behind it.  

In denmark the Xbox One S all digital (sad), is currently going for around 699 kr.
Which is about ~105$ USD, and they re giveing away about 100$ in games for the system as well.

Some places in europe its 99 euro (~108$ USD)....

In the USA right now I believe theres XB1s (all digital) for 149$ as well + games.

VAMatt said:
It is on a sale for $250 pretty often, and it always available bundled with games. Right now, its $200 with a bunch of games. So, I think it basically has had a defacto price cut. I would bet that the vast majority of PS4 units sold, at least in the USA, are selling for less than $300. And, of the ones sold at $300, I'm certain that most sell with a current AAA game bundled in, reducing the effective price of the hardware.

Xbox has been on sale more this year than the PS4...
Sony are being slow to cut prices, and its probably hurting their system sales (imo).

That 15m forecase was probably when they factored in a price cut or something.