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Jaicee said:
tsogud said:

I always found it interesting how the term sjw is being used as an insult nowadays, like pursuing social justice is somehow bad or something.

Technically an sjw is just someone who promotes socially progressive views, so most of us would be put in that category.

Colloquially, it's seen as a pejorative now because it's been co-opted by socially conservative individuals and more often then not it's used by them to undermine substantive socially progressive claims/arguments. I've seen it almost always used by the socially conservative against feminists to discredit feminism entirely as just a vapid, self-aggrandizing ideology.

Don't throw fuel to the conservative fire, imo being a sjw ain't really a bad thing.

I think it depends who is using the term and in what context. I know plenty of feminist women who use the term SJW.

SJW is a term that I associate with condescending opportunists who don't legitimately believe in the social equality-oriented causes they purport to so much as they enjoy appearing to be more cultured and sophisticated than say people who lack a college degree and reporting people on the internet for disagreeing with them. An SJW, at least in my mind, can be identified by their frequent use of terms like "intersectionality"  and "cisgender" like Jane Average knows what the hell you're talking about and condemnation of people who don't embrace politically correct lifestyles like veganism that ordinary working class people might not be able to afford.

AVERAGE PERSON: We need to support Planned Parenthood and other women's health providers...
SJW (WHO IS NOT TRANS): Watch your cis!
AVERAGE PERSON: What does that mean?
SJW: Educate yourself!

Of course, I get called one too from time to time too, but it's always by guys with underdressed "waifu" and/or Pepe the Nazi frog avatars who use terms like "gynocentrism" in casual conversation and assume normal, rational people who follow credible news sources not only understand what that means but furthermore agree with them and also once used the #gamergate hashtag, so...you know, I recognize that any concept can be abused by people who are so far out there on the right that everyone looks like Stalin to them.

ME: I like Star Wars.
MRA: I do too except they should bring George Lucas back bcuz of all this gynocentrism.
ME: What does that mean? Like there are too many women on-screen for you or something?
MRA: Don't call me a sexist. I believe the sexes are equal, it's just women today have pink hair and want special treatment.
ME: ...

Then for you, I believe you'd do well to stop using the term SJW as a pejorative as it detracts from the actual concerns social justice activists raise and fight for. You're actively fanning the conservative flame there.

If those bolded terms are your identifiers of a sjw (which is completely ridiculous btw) then I guess you could categorize me as one because they're needed in some cases to describe the systemic oppression different groups face and how we can change that through political involvement and social activism. And I hope you're intention was not to insult me by insinuating I am one (as in your context you'd be using it pejoratively) because I have used those terms with you on numerous occasions. That'd be extremely rude.

Cisgender isn't like some type of vague concept that's hard to grasp or something and a lot of people know what it means and if they don't it takes a literal 5 seconds to describe it. Feminism is inherently intersectional, as most sects address the different factors of oppression women face in differing cultures, places, religious doctrines, etc. There's a reason prominent feminists adhere to intersectionality, even if it's not explicitly stated, and not white feminism.

But overall I do see and understand your point it's that for you, basically a sjw is a vapid, hypocritical, self-aggrandizing social activist. They don't really believe and adhere to what they preach and are only in it for clout not for actual change. Would that be correct?

Last edited by tsogud - on 29 November 2019