RDR2 and Destiny 2 on Stadia run at lower resolutions than they do on XB1 X

[Mr Puggsly]

SvennoJ said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Developing for Linux isnt entirely new and its likely fairly standard PC specs as well. With the specs boasted about games should be looking and performing better.

When OnLive launched those specs trounced consoles. Google is a huge company, made big promises on specs and its looking like bullshit. You're suggesting they will upgrade later...

Are we absolutely certain this will be financially viable going this direction? Im also curious to see if developers care enough to keep porting games to work on Stadia.

The advantage MS and Sony have is their platforms already get great support. MS also has a great edge by having the most supported PC OS.

Im a fan of the streaming concept, I actually completed a few games via OnLIve years ago. But I dont like Stadia.

onLive launched in 2011 when there were no pro consoles and console games ran in sub 720p. Stadia does look better than the base PS4. Diminishing returns also play a factor, which is actually helping streaming services. As long as it doesn't look much worse, most people won't care. Switch will soon be the most played console, xbox one x and ps4 pro users are a niche.

Anyway onLive was not financially viable, it's dead. I have no clue if PS Now is even profitable with the benefit of using their own hardware and games to save costs. Game pass certainly can't be profitable for publishers but it has put price expectations low.

It seems more like Stadia is here since Google has all these data centers with processing time left over :/
MS has Azure so they are good for hardware.
Sony has the most first party titles, they can save on that.

It will be interesting.

Stadia has launched a few years into premium consoles and they boasted specs well above them. Even if there is a poor optimization thing happening, I suspect the reality is users arent getting the advertized specs.

PS4 and X1 basically share the same market, given their library is very similar and they have similar games as top sellers. So I generally  lump them together as an audience. Therefore I dont see premium consoles them as a niche separate things per se. Frankly, Stadia is aiming for the exact same type of gamers that enjoy Playstation and Xbox.

Switch in comparison has a more unique audience. When you look at the games that really thrive on it, it has no direct competitor.

PS Now is probably profitable, but I doubt its making a big profit. I cant recall the exact amount but I think they said it had like 700k subscribers in a report before the price change and some major PS4 games were also added. Its also limited to 720p/60 fps so they arent sending out data like Stadia.

Gamepass cant be profitable for publishers? What is that based on?

Sony has a strong 1st party, but they come to PS Now late. I believe I read xCloud is going to have the enitre X1 library. Hence, xCloud is more like a real console being streamed versus a more curated experience of the competitors. If xCloud is ultimately curated, it will atleast have 1st party games at launch.

Last edited by Mr Puggsly - on 21 November 2019