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thismeintiel said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

You are still arguing against something I didn't say.  Do you know what a straw man is?

Do you?  I'm sure you aware of the definition, but do you actually know how to recognize it?

There is nothing I touched upon that wasn't a direct response to what you have written.  You argued it was more important to launch early.  I gave you a few examples that disproved that.  You gave a whole spiel about how power doesn't really help, and I gave a counterargument as to why that isn't true.  Being much more powerful than the Switch is exactly why someone is going to pick the PS5 over it, the Switch's price and library be damned.  Like I said, it's the same reason the PS4 still sold so well against it.

The jump in power, while still bringing it out at a reasonable price, is exactly why Sony and MS are waiting.  In the end, that will help them, not hurt them. And if you hadn't noticed, the PS4 was the more powerful console this gen, yet it won.  Power never hurts.  The problem in the past is that the most powerful console always just happened to be the most expensive one, by far.  This gen, that changed.  And even if Sony has the more powerful console next gen (it probably won't be by much), it will be the same price as the Scarlett, so power won't hurt.

Yes, I know how to recognize a straw man.  It's where you make someone else have a worse argument, so that you can defeat it easily.  It looks exactly like how you first replied to me:

thismeinteil said:
"The Saturn launched months before the PS1.  The Dreamcast launched over a year before the PS2.  There's much more to it than launching early.  By your reasoning, those two should have been successes."

Notice how you are reasoning for me and coming to a conclusion that I definitely don't agree with.  That is a textbook version of what a straw man argument looks like.

Last edited by The_Liquid_Laser - on 04 November 2019