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Shaunodon said:
MTZehvor said:

Let's go through this piecemeal.

First, I would honestly hope you're referring to anything but the sexual assault allegations, because arguing that those were only conveniently discovered when he joined the Patriots would be even more absurd than anything else you've put forth so far. Civil cases like this have to be filed long in advance, usually weeks or even months. There is no possible way the accuser could have known he would be on the Patriots at this time. Media outlets picked up on the case as soon as it was filed, and it's received as much attention as any NFL star accused of sexual misconduct. Beyond this, it's just a simple matter of the media choosing to focus in on the latest AB story...which they had been doing for months on end anyway.

Second, we don't know the details of what happened behind the scenes with Pats (as is often the case). My suspicion is BB saw how damaging AB could be to a team's culture if he was allowed free roam on social media, and gave him a strict one strike policy. Regardless of whether you think those texts are "bad" or not (threatening physical abuse is admittedly a bit much looking back on it), it's still communicating directly with an accuser during a civil suit (bad), and directly sharing pictures of her and her kids for people she doesn't even know to investigate (really bad). If you can't trust someone to follow instructions like that, then they're not safe to keep around. Again, this is spitballing one hypothetical way that things could've gone, but there's plenty of scenarios in which there are, y'know, actual reasons for AB to be let go rather than the organization just suddenly caving to media pressure. If he's a previously troubled individual, he gets far less leeway before he's out the door.

Which brings me to the consistency argument. Yes, he was still acting like a dipshit. But that's entirely the point: BB brings these "problem" players into NE with the hopes of, for lack of a better word, reforming them. Randy Moss, Aqib Talib, Rodney Harrison, etc. The idea is that you get brought into NE with a clean slate. They'll forget about what you've done previously if you don't do it here, but if you do anything resembling what you did previously, you're gone. There's little to zero tolerance in NE for going off script, so to speak.

As for NE looking competent, I don't think there's anything involved in this that makes them look especially bad. They took a chance on a receiver who they thought they could straighten out. The chance ultimately cost them $178K (chump change in the NFL), and Demaryius Thomas' roster spot (who's been a mix of injured and playing badly this season anyway). They didn't lose major resources in this, nor were there major casualties to the offense. Maybe some of the younger receivers like Gunner or Jakobi didn't catch on as soon as they would've had they gotten the attention AB did that week, but the team's still 7-0 regardless, so...it's not exactly like they suffered in the meantime.

We also have no idea the extent of Gordon's injury. Being able to participate in practice isn't a great indicator unless it's full contact (which that one wasn't). It's possible it was more serious than originally thought, and that's what I'd imagine. This is Bill Belichick we're talking about here, the guy's won six Super Bowls working as a de facto GM. Have a little faith that he knows what he's doing.

I'm not even gonna bother replying to your whole 'piecemeal' argument here, because the whole thing can be blown up by the fact you actually believe Belichick orchestrated every step of the situation, when the evidence we have shows that wasn't the case.

https://popculture.com/sports/2019/09/27/bill-belichick-robert-kraft-antonio-brown-cut-disagree/

"Curran wrote that Kraft was all about cutting Brown while Belichick understood the decision, but he did not agree with it."
""After more conversations this week, I’ve come to understand that unanimous decision wasn’t easily reached," Curran wrote via Deadspin. "Belichick accepted the decision and understood it. But he was by no means leading the charge to move on — and if Kraft hadn’t insisted, Brown would probably still be here.""

Hence why I'd always referred to the problems being from the Patriots management and organisation, rather than just singling out Belichick. Even though the Patriots are masters of being tight-lipped and not leaking any stories, there's clearly some disharmony and disagreement on some levels (players, coaches, ownership), about some of the choices being made. And I doubt that was helped when not long after the owner made an executive decision to cut AB, he then went live pre-game on TNF practically begging Gronk to come out of retirement, when everyone could see by the end of last season how badly he was breaking down on both a physcial and emotional level.

You can choose to keep speculating or 'spitballing' about what you believe might've happened behind the scenes, and how perfectly they must've handled it based on your trust of the organision. But I'm just following the breadcrumbs of all the information we do have right now, and to me, it leads to some clear dysfunction on some level.

Yeah, Tom Curran, the guy who said Jimmy Garoppolo was probably going replace Tom Brady by 2017? The guy who insinuated that Brady was using his Netflix documentary to get back at Kraft, peddling the very story you complained about earlier? Get real.

Look, I respect Curran more than the average Boston sports reporter (especially so for retracting that tweet later on), but none of these so called sources have an insight into decisions being made on that high a level. It's all just insipid speculation about dysfunction and how the team is falling apart on the inside. Stories get blown up to ridiculous proportions. It happened in 2014, it happened in 2017, and it's happening now.