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EricHiggin on 15 October 2019
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DonFerrari said:
EricHiggin said:

I'm not sure if there are any either, specifically single player offline. While I haven't played Destiny in the longest time, I'm pretty sure you have to download updates even if you were only going to be playing solo, and it's not the only game like that.

Some games have been pretty broken though at their launch, so is playing a broken game 4 years after launch acceptable, if you have to wait hours or more, to re download the early patches to fix the issues? Issues that were fixed after months of updates initially, that you now have to deal with again because you had to delete everything to make space on the SSD?

An external HDD just to hold the data, so it can be transferred to the SSD quickly enough if you decide to play that game again, makes the most sense to me. If your net is fast or unlimited then I can see why an external HDD might seem useless. For those that don't want to pay for massive HDD space, they could just save the downloaded game data to an external and have it transfer to the SSD at the same time that the optical disc is transferring to the SSD. You might have to wait longer to play that way, and would have to be around to put the game disc in, but it would save you cost on the external storage. I myself would just get a reasonable size external and put all past game data on there so I could use the app when I'm away from home and transfer the game data from the external HDD to the internal SSD to save time.

Well Destiny is a game designed to be played online so sure it'll need to be online and thus need updates.

Also I don't remember buying games that are broken at launch. All games I can remember playing were pretty possible without updating anything when putting the disc.

Sony and MS probably will allow you to use external HDD or SD to keep up your games and transfer to the SSD internally. But from all we are hearing you won't be able to start your game from the external HDD or even SD because the game is designed to be run on the NVMe. So you win on not needing to redownload the data, but would still have to pass through the small nuisance of transfering data and losing some time (nothing of real problem if you plan your gaming time and have the transfer of the next game you want to play happen while you are playing something at that moment).

More and more games are going online to some degree as time goes on though, so maybe first party AAA could remain completely offline, but otherwise day one and early updates could very well be a concern.

BF3 and BF4 both were broken, but I'm pretty sure it was BF4 that was the standout. Took more than just months for the game to be somewhat acceptable. A year later when PS4 arrived, the question was is BF4 finally worth the purchase?

I think PS5 games will surely have to run off the SSD, but I wonder if PS4 games could run straight off the external HDD if you had one? Will devs bother to update PS4 games to make good enough use of the SSD to where it's worth forcing a transfer of BC games as well? If PS allows transfers, unless they can accomplish them in like 5 minutes flat, I think they would be crazy not to have it be part of the PS app so you can transfer games through the network while you're away.