| Trumpstyle said: Ofc I have seen HDD + SSD on PC, it can be used to reduce loading times, Mark Cerny was talking about new gameplay experiences that is not possible on current hardware in that April wired article. You can ofc do the Drohler and Vivster solution but it's just bunch of silly talk. |
I think we need to see the proof in the pudding before we assume new gameplay experiences are going to be enabled thanks to just a faster storage subsystem.
Because there is plenty of times in the past that wasn't the case...
| Trumpstyle said: Jason Schreier was talking about Google stadia and that MS/Sony aims to beat it, it has a vega 56 (10,7TF), that's what I meant, we don't know if he was talking about gaming performance or the actual number as you only need 7TF navi gpu to beat that gaming performance. But yes there is Vega TF, Navi TF, PC Navi TF and Console Navi TF. |
Teraflops are single precision (32bit) floating point calculations.
So it's exactly the same regardless if it is Vega, Navi, Polaris, VLIW4, VLIW 5 or whatever... It's a theoretical denominator, not a real world one.
| Trumpstyle said: Based on the E3 video there's only 2 possible memory conf for MS, 12-14GB Vram 320-bit bus(10GB for games at 560 GB/s memory bandwidth and 2-4GB Vram for OS slow speed) or 18GB Vram 256-bit bus(16GB Vram for games at 448 GB/s memory speed and 2GB for OS slow speed). Based on the insider we got they going for the first one. The E3 video wasn't really aimed at me but for you, drohler and Vivster to figure it out, I just got a bit lucky catching yours and Drohler comments hehe :), then I checked others gpu that have done the same thing. |
Yeah, but we are basing those assumptions on extremely small amounts of information from a video that may not have any relevance.
It wasn't like the Scorpio reveal where we could pretty much work out the entire specs of the machine.
Just don't take it as 100% fact just yet, that's all I am saying.
| Trumpstyle said: If you or Drohler has other memory Confs I will ofc take them into my guess for next-gen but it can't be based on wishful thinking (384-bit bus??), not possible the E3 showed 8 gddr6 chips but the placement suggested 10 gddr6 chips and you could see enough of the board to rule 12 gddr6 chips out. |
You can have a 384bit memory bus, it's just not going to be the optimal way to go about it.
GDDR6 also has dual independent 16bit channels, which allows for some flexibility to that end... It will be interesting to see if the memory controller is decoupled from the ROPS again like with the Xbox One X. (And Radeon 7970)
They may also have 20x GDDR6 chips in total by having a copy of the Ram chip layout duplicated on the underside of the motherboard. (Although unlikely.)
The board they showed is a very early engineering sample, so design rules will change between then and release.
Just lots of unknowns.
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