Snoopy said:
d21lewis said:
Now that we all agree that the film was spectacular, let's delve deep into this thing.
Do you think Thomas Wayne was the Joker's dad? I think he was. I think Batman's dad was an asshole. Batman doesn't know this because he was a dumb 10 year old. We all loved our parents at that age. That man was a monster!
Also, do you believe the story that the Joker told? The man is fucked up! I think he was lying throughout the film and the film confirms it.
-Joker said the other guy gave him a gun. Joker's boss said he bought the gun from a friend.
-Joker said some kids beat him and stole the sign. His boss said he stole the sign.
-Joker said he told his social worker he wanted to be a comedian. His social worker said he never told her that.
There's TONS of examples throughout the film and it makes me want to watch it again to see what was real and what was in his head. Or what he just ignored (Like killing his mom because she lied and then seeing the picture that MAY have proved his mom really did have a relationship with him).
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Joker probably never even met Thomas Wayne in the first place. After he gets punched by him, he stands over the sink staring at the mirror with a bloody nose. The next scene cuts to him being in his apartment doing the same thing.
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And Joker could have easily not killed those three guys on the train, but simply identified with the murderer since he wore a clown mask. Joker oftentimes puts himself into the lives and roles of others as evidenced by the scenes on the talk show. Yeah, that unreliable narator sure makes you doubt what could be perceived as reality at every turn. Without an outside take on the events in this film it will probably be next to impossible to peg down any concrete moments. Many rewatches may help this. And who knows how intentional all of this is. It could have just been a cute way to trick the audience, but once you open the unreliable narrator "can of worms" it's hard to put them all back in.
