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Machiavellian on 07 October 2019
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EricHiggin said:
the-pi-guy said:

>Where did I make assumptions other than more evidence tends to lead to more people believing something?

You made some assumption to come to the conclusion that the Kavanaugh case was somehow relevant to the Trump case.

>I think you mean the difference is Trump broke the world and everything about it the second he was conceived.

You're the one who said it.

I know you think that liberals/leftists have an irrational undying hatred for Trump's existence, but that's not the case for vast majority people.  And you're not going to be discussing honestly if you think that anyone here feels that way.  

When Trump got elected, I wanted him to do good for the country or at the very least do nothing bad.  

You're the one who said it, is exactly right. Why do you point to Trump? Why not CNN who was sourced?

I think instead of "I know you think", you meant, 'I think, that you think'. Lefties, not typical liberals, said to be more libertarian in today's world I guess.

That sounds nice on the surface, but if you happened to hate everything he stands for, or him personally, then it don't mean much. It would've been like saying, 'I wish Obama would do good for the country', which would have meant implementing some more conservative policies, to a conservative, even though it was clear that was highly unlikely to happen. 'If only I could win the lottery', is not a valid excuse for unpaid bills.

Oh please.  This is always the argument point of Trump supporters.  Oh all the left, liberals, Dems hate Trump. This BS position that people who disagree with the President must hate him instead of the fact that people just disagree with him just like people have disagreed with many Presidents.  You have tried to play this hate role as if it gives you power to stand for every dumb and stupid decision Trump makes and it makes you look bad.  In reality you need people to hate Trump so you can feel justified in supporting him but its a lame decision and choice to make.

Its the reason it makes the GOP look bad when they have to spin every stupid and dumb decision Trump makes just like this Ukraine mess because no matter how much you try to spin, it still looks very bad and sets a bad precedent.  The fact even Trump administration has to put these calls in a seperate private server because they know how bad they are should be a nugget that I am sure you ignored.