Gaming companies are a perfect example of the failure of unregulated capitalism.

[DonFerrari]

LuccaCardoso1 said:

DonFerrari said:

I wouldn't even need to read what you write to say failures come from government "regulating" capitalism.

Please explain how LESS regulation would make:

- Corporations respect more their workforce and have smaller payment gaps between CEOs and workers;

Brazil have one of the most protective workers law, 90% of lawsuits from worker-company relationship and like 10x or more unions. Yet the employees in USA receive much higher wages, have a better working environment, etc. That comes from technology development not from law making.

- Corporations stop evading taxes;

If you don't have shit laws you won't have legal tax evasion. Tax evasion is a crime, if you can pay 0 taxes under the law then you aren't evading any taxes.

- Corporations stop exploiting addictive tendencies and psychologically manipulating players, including children, to give them more money.

Let's ban ads as well, let's stop selling what people want to purchase. You want your father to take care of you until you are 80 or do you plan to start being your own man?

DonFerrari said:

After reading your OP I can confirm I totally disagree of your premisses, at most I can agree that corporations only look at profit and that is exactly what they have to look at.

I'd love to know what premises you disagree with.

Subtract the "companies are in for profit" which is what I agree, and I disagree with your other points.

haxxiy said:

DonFerrari said:

I wouldn't even need to read what you write to say failures come from government "regulating" capitalism.

After reading your OP I can confirm I totally disagree of your premisses, at most I can agree that corporations only look at profit and that is exactly what they have to look at.

That's the sort of top-notch, thoughtful discussion I visit VGC for.

"None, you're wrong, I win, bye bye."

To elaborate: imagine being near 2020 and you still believe consumers are enlightened choosers who always make rational choices while corporations are dumb constructs who will never opt for swindling or band together for mutual benefit in detrimental ways to the market.

I rather have customers being dumb by their ownselves than "bright politicians" deciding what I can or shall do with my money.

But please tell me why should I prepare a very well put answer to a poorly though OP? One that basically wants the government to "solve problems" that more likely then not they create or will make worse with their laws.

Do you really think the world got better from the 18 century to today based on laws instead of capitalism?

Or ignore all evidence that the world saw its greatest years, in terms of productivity, per capita growth etc. during the Keynesian politics of the 1930s - 1970s, later for certain places in Europe and Asia but following the same guidelines.

KManX89 said:

thismeintiel said:

We already have a body governing them, us gamers. Whenever someone wants to pull a bullshit move, like MS's DRM fiasco, we rise up with our voices and, more importantly, our wallets.

To be fair, gamers far too often DON'T vote with their wallets, or at least not nearly enough to make a difference. Look at all the bullshit Activi$ion pulls year in and year out with CoD, last year with BO4 being a prime example. They locked all DLC behind a season pass that you could initially only get with a $100 SE with day 1 content and less content than previous passes, threw in an awful tiered battle pass system and rendered all physical editions of the game obsolete with a 50 GB day 1 patch and still managed to sell over 14m copies, and what did they do? They started selling reticles, throttling XP and snuck in loot boxes post-launch. All because people LET them get away with their bullshit.

And now, we have Acti locking PC and XB1 players out of an entire game mode for an entire year (basically the game's whole life span) and throwing in P2W loot boxes containing weapons. You could argue people NOT voting with their wallets caused Acti to get too far ahead of themselves. Activi$ion does this shit because they know Bobby Kotick could literally be caught shooting a guy on tape and they'd still sell tens of millions of copies. And the sad part is, people know what they have to do to get them to stop, yet they refuse to do it.

BFV even after all its controversy and their then-EVP telling people not to buy the game still managed to sell over 7m copies.

Mass Effect: Andromeda, or should I say, Mess Effect: Andromeda still sold 2.5m copies even after hiring a racist shitbird to work on the game and a beta full of glitches.

NBA 2K18 has the worst P2W progression/MTXs system I've ever seen, yet it still sold over 10m copies.

I can list more, but I believe my point is clear.

If customers don't vote with their wallets is because they don't care enough, so why should government get involved? Just so this doesn't get made to please yourself and everyone else that think customers are dumb and need government to take care for the ones that aren't as bright as people in this forum that bad mouth them?