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Baddman said:
sethnintendo said:

Aren't those two developed by third parties and only published by Nintendo?  Super Mario Maker 2 is just an upgrade from Wii U with added extras.  I'm talking developed by their internal teams not third party games.

you can't use that to disqualify them when games in your op are also developed by third parties but published by nintendo(endless ocean and battallion wars)

Point taken.  But those games in op even if made today probably be less development time than Astral Chain and Marvel.