Official 2020 US Election: Democratic Party Discussion

[uran10]

tsogud said:

uran10 said:

I'm a lot more cynical than you cause I only trust Bernie and Tulsi. Especially since Warren stated she would take corporate money and the big money interest are willing to settle with her. She's also courting the insiders of the party which she claims to fight and is bolstering her campaign with 10mil corp cash. She's wishy washy on M4A, she endorsed Hillary and she's been backtracking on things including whether the primary was rigged or not.

Let me be honest here, I wouldn't vote for her and I know many others who are the same and she continues to rub Bernie supporters the wrong way each time she opens her mouth lately. She probably would lose to trump in the general. Her poor political instincts are catching up to her and these "calculations" as some like to describe it just look bad and makes her not trustworthy. And that is the biggest reason why I would never vote for her. I don't trust her.

Fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion and vote. Those are legitimate criticisms but for me, the point to which I stop supporting Liz is when she takes corporate/big money donations. Hopefully she makes the right choice and doesn't do that but until then she has my support. I'll vote for any Dem in the general but it'll be an antipathetic vote if Biden won the nomination.

The thing is tho, she's already done it. Her last race, 2018 senate she took any and all money. Then used the 10 mil surplus to push her presidential campaign. Then she says in the general that she will take it. That's why my trust is 100% gone with her. To me she's shown her cards and she's with the establishment. I see some of my fave youtubers feeling hurt and trying to rationalize everything she's doing and trying to defend her but I don't see how she can be defended. I think she's there to ensure bernie doesn't win. The biggest red flag besides media coverage is that she met with hillary. Like nah... I cannot trust her at all and I feel people need to be more cynical when it comes to her as well.